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John Byrne
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There's more detail in that one panel than some artists put in a whole book...•• Just so someone can't spring up to take me to task for this, I'll point out this is not, strictly speaking, "detail". For decades, in fact, I've called it "argle-bargle"--random shapes that fill space and look like something is really going on, but are kind of a zen exercise, where my mind drifts off to contemplate life, the universe and everything. Something I could not do with true "detail".
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Andrew Bitner
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The other X-Men had better get into the game real fast or Kitty's going up against Dark Phoenix alone... and that won't be good.
JB, you've said this before about "argle-bargle" and noted something similar about doing Ben Grimm's rocky plates. How long did it take for you to reach this point, where you can let your hand work on auto-pilot?
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Just so someone can't spring up to take me to task for this, I'll point out this is not, strictly speaking, "detail". For decades, in fact, I've called it "argle-bargle"--random shapes that fill space and look like something is really going on, but are kind of a zen exercise, where my mind drifts off to contemplate life, the universe and everything. Something I could not do with true "detail". ** You do "argue-bargle" better than anyone in the industry. I've studied it since I was kid, and it wasn't until I stopped looking for the details that I actually started to see them. It taught me one of my first lessons about how humans see things. Another thing I enjoy is how more mature and realistic your female figures have become over the years. You definitely notice this when you compare Jean 2020 to Jean 1980.
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John Byrne
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JB, you've said this before about "argle-bargle" and noted something similar about doing Ben Grimm's rocky plates. How long did it take for you to reach this point, where you can let your hand work on auto-pilot?•• QUITE a long time--but let me disabuse you of a misconception. Ben's rocky plates are NOT "argel-bargle". I have to "stay in control" when I pencil/ink those, to make sure they properly follow the contours of his body. You may be conflating here with times when I have said I do no try to keep the pattern consistent, except on the face.
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Wallace Sellars
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| Wallace S. - I see what you did there. :) |
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*scratches head*
Whatever it is must be purely coincidental.
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John Byrne
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I wondered........
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Michael Penn
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I have a feeling Eric is thinking Wallace meant to refer to
FASTER, PUSSYCAT! KILL! KILL!
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Eric Sofer
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That was it, Michael. Too smart for my own good, I guess...
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Wallace Sellars
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I had not yet made my debut when that film was produced, and was today years old when I learned of its existence!
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Richard Stevens
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Your Kitty is such a normal kid hero. She's awesome in this.
The depth created in that last panel as she pulls Wolverine down through the earth is really convincing. Take that, overwrought 3D coloring! The whole swimming and floating effect of this page works great.
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Jason K Fulton
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There's something funny about a kid whos SWIMMING THRU THE EARTH complaining about something else being unnatural. It absolutely feels like something a teen would say.
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Nice page, JB! I echo Richard and Jason's statements about Kitty feeling like a real teen superhero.
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