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Keith Thomas
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He isn't? Ugh it's been so long and I never liked him to
begin with. I'm with Jason, once fine, twice OK if you
really have to, any more and it's a cliche. I still want
someone to do my story of cleansing the Marvel Universe of
all characters from the future to save the present timeline
from being destroyed.
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Brad Danson
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If our timeline has all of these characters showing up from different alternate futures, just imagine how many characters from different alternate futures must be showing up in a present alternate timeline! The stories that could be told!
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John Byrne
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Somewhere, Mark Gruenwald is smiling.
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Larry Morris
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I think Bishop was from a different alternate universe.
That's the way I remember it, anyway.
Anyone who had it figured out, while Claremont was still on X Men, that Cable was Scott's son is smarter than me. I sure didn't have it figured out.
IIRC, it was revealed that Cable was from the future right around the time that Chris left. Originally, it loked like he had bionics. It was after the revelation that it became the technoorganic versus that Apocalypse infected his younger version with.
Claremont was just the scripter n X Factor 65-68.
BTW, I think about as well as I think Cyclops is portrayed in that series. Again, there are missteps, I won't argue that. There is also a whole lot of good stuff. He isn't at the top of my list of writers who damaged Cyclops.
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Keith Thomas
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Another example of the reader being told what was
going on, since Paul Smith made absolutely no attempt to
draw the same face Dave and I had been drawing. I read
the issue in which Madlyne Pryor arrived on the scene and
I had no idea what the characters were reacting to.
Smitty drew a standard Smitty girl. She had red hair, but
he didn't even match the hairstyle!
I think I read he gave her Louise Simonson's hair style
at the time. Looks close to me. I'm sure someone would be
recognizeable as someone else's twin even with a
different hairdo
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Arc Carlton
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X-MEN EVERMORE. . . .
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I have to admit, I like the sound of it...
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John Byrne
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I'm sure someone would be recognizeable as someone else's twin even with a different hairdo •• To the characters in the story, sure. That's why they reacted as they did. But in "real life"? Imagine identical twins with very different hairstyles being drawn by artists with very different techniques. Still convinced they would be "recognizable"? In any case, since the point was that she was Jean's "twin", every effort should have been made to show that she was Jean's "twin". If the readers have to be told what's going on, the visual part of the storytelling has failed.
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Keith Thomas
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every effort should have been made to show that she was
Jean's "twin"
Maybe they convinced themselves they had, it wouldn't be
the first time the artist's intention didn't elicit the
desired result...examples of which I'm sure you have many
from your own experience. Though in this case it looks like
a failed in joke "hey let's give her Louise's hairdo".
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Rick Whiting
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To me, it never made much sense that Cyclops son and Cable were the same person since they were both in the same place at the exact same time. Remember, in the MU the same exact person from 2 different time periods can't exist at the same time in the same time line, much less in the same place. This was all pretty much spelled out in an issue Marvel Two In One where the Thing and the rest of the Guardians of the Galaxy had to stop Vance Astro from meeting his younger self. IIRC, in that issue crazy storms started pooping up all over the world and kept getting worse as Vance moved closer to his younger self, which is why the Vance and the Guardians had to return to the future.
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Keith Thomas
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Well that didn't take long other forums are already
starting threads about how JB wants to do his own X-men
Forever and already has the first 4 issues plotted out. LOL
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Larry Morris
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What about Kang, Rick? He's certainly met other versions of himself.
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Howard Mackie learned that trick a long time back.
He knew just which buttons to push in my head. That's how I ended up on
STARBRAND!
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I've always liked that Starbrand issue in which John Big Byrne shows up in a comic con and talks with Starbrand about how easy it would be to guess a superhero's secret identity. And when Byrne snaps at one fan that asks him when is he coming back to X-Men... priceless.
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