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Rick Whiting
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I would to also like to see 2 X-books set in the Forever continuity, one written by Claremont and the other written and drawn by JB. Better yet, both books could be combined in an over sized 54+ page ongoing X-Men Forever series (with an ongoing 14 page New Mutants story) for $4.99. Jb's X-Men team would consist of the original 5, plus Havok and Polaris and any brand new characters he would like to add. Claremont's team would consist of the new X-Men and characters that joined the team after the new X-Men were introduced.
Edited by Rick Whiting on 22 June 2009 at 3:54pm
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Nope. I'ld like to see each books, one by Claremont & one by JB, each in its own continuity. And even more i would like to see both outsell uncanny and astonishing.
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John Byrne
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Good luck drawing that though…
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It's really just a negative image. In this day of Photoshop, it would be easy
as cake!
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John Byrne
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… 2 X-books set in the Forever continuity…
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The whole point of this thought experiment is that my book would NOT be
in the same "continuity" as Chris'. What would be the point of that?
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Exactly.
Claremont's X-Men and Byrne's X-Men. Not a shared reality.
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Keith Thomas
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It's really just a negative image. In this day of
Photoshop, it would be easy as cake!
See I never think in terms of Photoshop, do you use a lot
of Photoshop "techniques" in your art now JB? Has it sped
things up for you?
PS- Somebody commission a movie Iceman from JB I'd love to
see it.
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John Byrne
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I never think in terms of Photoshop, do you use a lot
of Photoshop "techniques" in your art now JB? Has it sped
things up for you?
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Yes and no. Sometimes the effects can be more time consuming that doing
the actual drawing, but it's the effect I'm after.
Doing starscapes in my TREK books is a whole lot faster and, I think, better
than doing them by hand.
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Somebody commission a movie Iceman from JB I'd love to
see it.
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Hand draw a negative image? That would be a big NO, thanks!
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John Byrne
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Claremont's X-Men and Byrne's X-Men. Not a shared reality.
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X-MEN EVERMORE. . . .
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Rick Whiting
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Then separate continuity it is. Let the duel begin.
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Larry Morris
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Yeah, Cable absolutely was revealed to be Scott's son after he left. Has Claremont addressed this? Cable had arrived in the books by the time he left.
I don't see revenge or maliciousness in Claremont's decisions with Cyclops before or since 1986. And maybe he thought Jean had always had feelings for Logan. I know he thinks of the character in UXM 101-137 as essentially being Jean. But I don't tend to ascribe negative intentions to writers just because they do things with characters I don't like. I don't dislike it any less, but I don't think of it as intentional.
The part I posted before about being a favorite character. That only means so much. Cyclops was Grant Morrison's favorite X Man. Same with Chris Yost who writes Scott's X Force kill squad. I've seen a bunch of X creators this decade who claim to love the character. It's no real solace when you hate what's being done.
The only one of the originals that I think Claremont really loves is Jean, and that's Jean/Phoenix. When he gets a hold of her she's Phoenixed up in some way. I did really like how he used her in a couple of issues from his 2000 run on the core books. As a reminder of the values and ideals that the team should strive for.
I read those Excalibur and Xtreme issues that featured Warren. Do you think Xpose was a sympathetic take on Warren? Warren is representative of Xavier's/Morrison's cyrrent take on human/mutant relations and Storm is repesenting Claremont's more old schol beliefs.
Warren had a romantic relationship with Psylocke, one of Claremont's favorites. I once saw him say that Warren wasn't good enough for her. I really liked how he wrote Warren in that Excalibur issue, but it's gonna take more than that to convince me he really likes him.
I've never seem him outright comment on Iceman.
Just that he never really uses him. Can't see that as much of an endorsement. He has used the Beast enough that I can believe that he's reasonably fond of him.
When I think of Claremont and 'pet" characters, the originals are not the names that come to mind.
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Keith Thomas
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Hand draw a negative image? That would be a big NO,
thanks!
PSS and let him use Photoshop.
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Paul Greer
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Just the thought of having a JB X-Men starting with issue 94 has my mind racing with excitement. Let's hope some day this will become a reality.
In regards to Claremont's Forever book. I might buy the first trade to see if this is something I like. I lost interest in X-Men in the 90's. But I'm willing to give it a chance based on Grummett and Paul Smith working as artists.
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