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Keith Thomas
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Indeed it was! And Bobby would have come back too, if
only I could have figured out how to draw him properly!
What always bothered me about Iceman was, Colossus turns to
steel but still has his hair, Iceman covers himself in ice
but his hair doesn't show through nor was his head drawn
"higher" to compensate for the hair being under the ice. I
guess he learned that trick from the Human Torch.
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Keith Thomas
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He also had Angel crucified, helpless and doomed to
marry some butch with a knife in the sewers. He was rescued
by Storm
At least he didn't chop off his wings and make him the
Archangel.
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John Byrne
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At the other end of the spectrum, I really, really, really disliked it when Iceman was suddenly being drawn with spiky ice hair and a beard, Especially when he guest starred in on of the issues of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN I drew and it was "fixed" by the inker. In much the same way you "fix" a cat.I didn't have any problem with the 'hairless' Iceman. Just seemed like it was slicked down under the ice coating, like wearing a swimmer's cap.
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Brian Miller
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At least in the XMF continuity Cyclops is not (so far, and I hope it stays that way) Cable's father (God, I hated that revelation).
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How's this since it was all but stated before Claremont left? Is he not staying within the continuity established before his departure?
And why wouldn't he use Iceman in Forever since Bobby was on the team, and appeared in his( Chris's) book at the time?
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Rick Whiting
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That could very well be the case JB. In those issues, it was stated that Angel was everything several species of birds were (or something like tat) and more. There was also a cool scene that showed Angel holding up a collapsed ceiling or wall by using both his hands and wings. I really wish someone could post those pages from those particular issues.
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Brian Miller
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Angel holding up a collapsed ceiling or wall by using both his hands and wings.
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I guess he was flapping really, REALLY fast.
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Rick Whiting
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Brian, IIRC, Cable being revealed to being Cyclops son happened after he had already left the book.
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Lars Sandmark
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JB wrote:
"Time for Chris and me to have dueling X-books."
John Byrne, You Listen To Me Right Now,.....MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!
PLEASE!
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Stéphane Garrelie
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About Iceman in Forever Claremont said:
"All I can say, is wait & see -- and perhaps prepare to be surprised here & there."
(Answering a fan of Beast who likes when Bobby is around and regreted that Iceman wasn't a favorite of Chris)
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 22 June 2009 at 3:39pm
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Rick Whiting
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Brian, Angel was on the ground when he held up that collapsed wall or ceiling. He wasn't flying.
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Keith Thomas
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I thought the movie look was pretty good. Good luck drawing
that though ;-)
And yeah Cable being Cyclops' son was after CC left.
Oh and another good CC Angel story Marvel Fanfare 1-4.
Edited by Keith Thomas on 22 June 2009 at 3:41pm
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Arc Carlton
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I was never a fan of the bearded Iceman. That was an unnecessary change.
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