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F. Ron Miller
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As a kid I was acquainted with the term and that, in and of itself, was
enough to turn me off. Because at the time I wanted to read comic books.
I'm pretty sure the first graphic novel I purchased was the Lee/Kirby Silver
Surfer thing. I remember feeling slightly disappointed --kind of wishing it
were a comic book instead.
I'm not sure that saying if the work had been published prior as comic
books makes it no longer eligible for graphic novel status is completely
fair. There's a lot of grey area. Maus for example, stands for me, as a
graphic novel even though it was serialized in Raw.
In a related genre I consider the works of Dickens and Verne as novels
even though they were once serialized in newspapers.
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Bruce Buchanan
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I thought "Death Strikes at Midnight and Three" was nothing short of fantastic myself.
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Brad Brickley
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I call them dolls when I want to really get someones goat.
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Michael Edwards
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I can see JB's point, but on the other hand; by terming them graphic novels. They can unload a lot of old material that is no longer available due to bad decisions in the past. Also, it allows new up and coming creators to make inroads by hooking readers with a collected format; whereas their limited series/ongoing series may cost too much for a casual consumers budget.
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Thanos Kollias
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Well, over here they advertise the Watchmen movie as being based on the best COMIC ever.
That is something refreshing, even though it's completely wrong, for other reasons!!!
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Josh Goldberg
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BTW, what should we call a two-hour TV show that is produced as a TV show, broadcast on TV first, then presented in theaters (either home or [mostly] abroad) as if it were a movie?
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F. Ron Miller
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"repurposing"
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Once again, they are comics books, fumetti, mangas, bandes dessinées...
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Brian Miller
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I was reading a review today on the Watchmen movie ( I believe it was on msn.com) and the reviewer explained how the movie was based on a 12-part comic book. I thought, " at last!"
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Joe Zhang
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Maybe if we kept calling comic books "fresh fruits and vegetables", more people would buy them.
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Gene Best
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JB: DAKR KNIGHT RETURNS was published originally as four
"bookshelf format"
issues -- basically scaled down graphic novels. The
format and the term
were invented for several reasons, some of them legal,
and at least one was
because stuff was coming out that did not qualify as
"graphic novels" in the
strictest sense.
--
JB, what were the legal reasons?
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Pedro Bouça
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I love the portuguese term "histórias em quadrinhos" (abbrev: HQs), literally "stories on little squares".
Still the best I can find out there.
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