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Matt Reed
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 1
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Wes Wescovich wrote:
| Or is this more modern non-sensical slang like the catch-all "he's a tool" that I still don't get? |
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Wes, you and I are nearly the same age (I'll be 40 in a few months) and "tool" was used when I was in high school. How can you not get that slang in context? For me, although I don't use as much slang as some (and when I do, it's usually to make fun of the usage of the slang), I can understand what's being said. Slang is constantly evolving, changing with each generation. You sound really old when you say your slang is better or more relateable than these young whippersnappers. For 40 year olds everywhere, don't make us out to be elderly!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 2
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Breast cancer episode in MAUDE, if I recall, eh?
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No -- Maude working for a real estate broker.
Long before the "very special" episodes.
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John Mietus
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 12:32pm | IP Logged | 3
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Yeah, I was wondering why Wes didn't get "tool" either. I've heard that one
since grade school in the early '70s at least.
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Brad Brickley
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | 4
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I don't recall hearing tool in school and I'm the same age as Matt, so I guess it's a big country out there. It might not have made it to everywhere. Or we could be a couple of dumb asses, I remember my dad using that one!
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David Whiteley
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 12:39pm | IP Logged | 5
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Even in Newfoundland I heard "tool."
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Matt Reed
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I'm also pretty befuddled at saying that slang is the product of being lazy and the MTV generation. Slang has been around as long as the spoken word. You may not like it. You may wish everyone spoke properly. But to say slang is a product of a 26 year old cable network or that it's worse now than ever before is to be fairly out-of-touch where language is concerned. Hell, watch any 70s television show, a 50s movie, or read a book by Dickens.
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John Mietus
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Consider the word "cavalier" which has come to mean a blasé attitude,
originated from the French word chevalier, "knight," which in turn evolved
for a Vulgar Latin slang term for a nag horse.
I don't seem to recall that they had MTV in ancient Rome.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | 8
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Even in Newfoundland I heard "tool."
****
Tool, eh?
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John Byrne
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Consider the word "cavalier" which has come to mean a blasé attitude, originated from the French word chevalier, "knight," which in turn evolved for a Vulgar Latin slang term for a nag horse. *** "Gentleman" was once a prejorative. Back in Elizabethan times, English was much like modern Italian, and virtually all the letters were pronounced. (None of this "silent E" crap!) The term for a lady of the evening and one twelfth of the face of a clock had the same pronunciation. And let us not even consider what happens to words when they cross the Pond!
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John Byrne
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I'm also pretty befuddled at saying that slang is the product of being lazy and the MTV generation. Slang has been around as long as the spoken word. You may not like it. You may wish everyone spoke properly. But to say slang is a product of a 26 year old cable network or that it's worse now than ever before is to be fairly out-of-touch where language is concerned. Hell, watch any 70s television show, a 50s movie, or read a book by Dickens. **** Slang is a lot like comics, and people often don't realize that, like retcons that have been in place so long they are no longer seen as retcons, some slang has been around so long we don't realize it used to be slang. Say "Mom and Dad" and you're using something your great-grandfather would have called slang. A proper Victorian would be horrified if you told him you just bought a new pair of pants.
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Jason Fulton
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 1:10pm | IP Logged | 11
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The only slang word left that really throws me is the use of the 'C' word. That just shouldn't be used ever.
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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 13 November 2006 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 12
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For 40 year olds everywhere, don't make us out to be elderly!
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Thanks, Matt! From one young'n to another: you're far out!
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