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Brian Sherwin
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Stan, I don't know if you or real or not, but I want to meet you. I will even buy the beer. My God, I can just imagine the fun.
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Brett Rankin
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| Posted: 12 November 2006 at 10:30pm | IP Logged | 2
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In all fairness JB does often say that anyone who wants to take him to task for something knows where to find him. (Here lol)
So if a dude signs up and he's asking a contentious question, he shouldn't really get yelled at by the membership. JB asked him to come here. Now if he comes in all like "hey a-hole I hate Doom Patrol and I'm from fake russia" yeah that's gay.
JB's house though. True dat.
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Wes Wescovich
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Ok, I'm torn between trying to figure out what was homosexual about that statement, and what the hell "True dat" means. Or is this more modern non-sensical slang like the catch-all "he's a tool" that I still don't get?
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Jason Fulton
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| Posted: 12 November 2006 at 10:58pm | IP Logged | 4
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Googles yields the following:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=true.dat
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Brian Sherwin
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Where is fake Russia? I want some fake vodka. And one of those hats.
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Wes Wescovich
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Thanks for the link, Jason. I guess it just continues the laziness of our language following expressions like "loves me some" and other useless phrases stemming from the uneducated and uncaring media darlings of the MTV crowd. Brian, I too wonder where fake Russia is, also.
Brett, I honestly mean no offense, I just feel like the easiest way to communicate your ideas quickly and clearly is to use the most standard form of the language as possible. I don't know how old you are or anything about you, but obviously you are much younger and more "hip" than I am if I can't understand what you mean. Of course, that stands to reason that you might not care if I can understand you, also.
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Tom Tryon
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Wes, I'll take a wild guess that you're a contemporary. I believe that "that's gay", "he's a tool", and "true, dat" among others, are attempts to sound cool (I can't be sure as I am now old and, by law, no longer cool). Don't be critical, rather, try to understand that users of such newer colloquialisms were born too late to appreciate the classical slang that we groovy hep cats dug. (But I don't like the use of "gay" as a pejorative either).
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Wes Wescovich
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| Posted: 12 November 2006 at 11:47pm | IP Logged | 8
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Yes, Tom, we probably are too old for that type of slang. It just seems to me that newer slang doesn't have any context to it. That, or it sounds like someone who slept through english class. Not trying to be critical, just feeling old before my time.
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Jo Harvatt
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Slang is generally a way to show inclusion in a group (or wished for inclusion) or to exclude outsiders. By the time it gets mainstream enough to be in a bulletin board its probably pretty uncool, and like square, you dig what I'm saying Daddio ?
And using 'gay' as a perjorative is so unhip I'm surprised your legs haven't fallen off, Brett.
Wizard prang old fruit.
Edited by Jo Harvatt on 13 November 2006 at 6:25am
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Patrick Drury
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It just seems to me that newer slang doesn't have any context to it. That, or it sounds like someone who slept through english class.
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Wouldn't it be more likely that you're just unaware of the context? You admit you're probably too old for the slang, so isn't it probable that you're also too old to recognize the context too? And isn't the point of slang that it's informal?
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Wes Wescovich
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Hmmmmmm.
Gay was originally defined as being happy and has in the last 50 or so years it has been used to refer to someone as being homosexual.
Tool is a word meaning a useful piece of equipment that makes work easier.
Context seems pretty clear to me, Patrick.
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Dan Bowen
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Semantic change is inevitably fluid, irregular and variegated in context.
Langue et Parole!
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