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Chris Hutton
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You thank I so much for helping me with my English. I no I don't speak it very gooder.
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Roger Jackson
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English your second language? HAW!
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Matt Linton
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Guess that'll give all the crusaders something to bitch about on IMWAN.
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Maybe that's because complaints about it here aren't welcome? No message board is perfect, not even this one. While there are many things I like about the JBF, there are plenty of things I don't. If, for example, someone started a thread about Spider-Man 3 and JB said, "I don't want to discuss that", I'd have no problem. Banning discussion after a dozen or more pages of participating in said discussion I just don't understand. Whether it's meant that way or not, it comes across as "I don't like the direction this has taken, so we're not going to talk about it anymore".
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Dan Marcoux
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| Posted: 23 November 2006 at 2:58am | IP Logged | 4
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John Mietus wrote:
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You've got to be kidding me. What is this? Some kind of friggin' holy war?
Step back.
Pause.
Take a look around.
It's fucking COMIC BOOKS and INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS we're talking about here. I mean seriously, if your biggest worry is what other people on an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD are talking about, you've got a problem. Step back. Pause. Take a look around.
I've been involved with message boards of one sort or another for over 20 years now. From the old dial-up BBSes, to the hosted forums on Compuserve and Genie, to the internet newsgroups, to the "modern" internet forums. There's something about the perceived anonymity of being behind a keyboard that bolsters certain personalities and boosts egos. Some people become totally irrational and feel as though must defend their personal choices at all costs. I've seen long time friendships break apart over silly little arguments online. Atari vs. Commodore. Apple vs. PC. DC vs. Marvel. Sega vs. Nintendo. VHS vs. Beta. DSL vs. Cable. Maybe some peoples lives are so empty that they need these little things to argue about. I honestly don't understand it.
Step back.
Pause.
Take a look around.
Is it worth it?
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Pete Carrubba
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All this talk about dirty words a page ago made me think of this:
http://thatvideosite.voxcdn.com/core/3246/family_guy_fcc_son g.wmv
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Dave Powell
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| I've been involved with message boards of one sort or another for over 20 years now. From the old dial-up BBSes, to the hosted forums on Compuserve and Genie, to the internet newsgroups, to the "modern" internet forums. There's something about the perceived anonymity of being behind a keyboard that bolsters certain personalities and boosts egos. Some people become totally irrational and feel as though must defend their personal choices at all costs. I've seen long time friendships break apart over silly little arguments online. Atari vs. Commodore. Apple vs. PC. DC vs. Marvel. Sega vs. Nintendo. VHS vs. Beta. DSL vs. Cable. Maybe some peoples lives are so empty that they need these little things to argue about. I honestly don't understand it. |
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Ditto, I've been around since GEnie back in '85, and BITNET in college.
The internet allows me to indulge one of my passions. I love to debate, but it can go way overboard online. I was actually BANNED from the Avengers MB over on Alvaro's about 3 years ago because I dared make a cogent arguement against Dissassembled and Bendis. I assume that's what happened, because there was no warning ... just BLAM. I believe that what happened was that I disagreed with the board moderator once too often. Just to clarify, I wasn't greifing, and never called anyone out personally, just stated that I believed the storyline was disjointed and made little sense within the known histories of the characters. Oh, and that Cap would never stand around looking shell-shocked, hahah. Unfortunately, when you use multi-syllable words and actually think through what you want to say, you make enemies among people who don't.
It always seems to get personal online, probably because you know you're not gonna get poked in the nose. I have literally seen an Avengers discussion end with "you're retarded." And that was from the moderator. That was about the low point. That said, I really appreciate a board with a heavy handed mod, who axes the personal attack or thread he hates, rather than immediately axing the person.
edited because it's 6 am and I've worked all night.
Edited by Dave Powell on 23 November 2006 at 5:02am
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Joakim Jahlmar
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Dave Pruitt wrote:
"Another thing about this analogy though, is I doubt JB would tell his guests they weren't allowed to talk about certain topics in his house, or they'd be kicked out. Or shushed into silence if they started a conversation about certain movies, or whatnot."
Well, without specifying to it, JB, I think that there may very well be topics that are off-limits in people's real houses. Normally though, since a house doesn't operate like a forum, it's not quite as open for just about anybody to come, but more to people one know a wee bit better, and hence this problem wouldn't really arise IRL.
Even though I could see a host politely say, "let's not talk about that" or e.g. "no political talk in this household."
Btw, Chris (Hutton), where is that "eggnog/levae you for dead" quote from. I find it amusing and thought I might find the source itself up my alley.
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John Byrne
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I doubt JB would tell his guests they weren't allowed to talk about certain topics in his house, or they'd be kicked out.*** Out in the real world, when guests in my house stumble upon a subject they discover is one I would prefer not to have discussed, they change the subject. They don't turn it into a crusade. The former is called "courtesy". The latter is called the internet.
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John Byrne
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It saddens me that there needs to be a "list of
forbidden topics" anywhere.
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Especially superhero movies! Yikes!
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It really saddens me that you two have nowhere
else in the whole wide world that you can discuss
such subjects.
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Brett Rankin
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My contention with it is that yeah, I can go anywhere and read what people think about the Spider-Man movies, but y'know what? I want to know what all the people I've come to know here think about it.
Why would I want to go talk about it with a bunch of people I don't know? I come here not just because I love JB's work and am interested in his thoughts on things, but because of the other people who are here, too.
Sorry, but it's true - it's not all about JB. I see the Spider-Man 3 trailer, I want to know what Zaki Hasan thinks, or Matt Reed, or John Metius, or Matt Linton, or Dave Pruitt, or any number of other people. (Yep, even Joe Zhang!)
Yes, I can go to any message board and spout my thoughts on Spider-Man 3 trailers and read what "bill3245" thinks, but who cares what they think? I don't know them, and they don't know me.
This comes off as, "I don't like the Spider-Man movies, therefore nobody is allowed to talk about them."
If you don't like the Spider-Man movies, can't you just not open the thread, JB? Isn't it that simple? If hearing that others like these movies angers you so, just don't read about what they're saying and trust your mods to make sure it stays civil.
I really feel like denying your membership the opportunity to discuss something which is of common interest with each other is counter-productive to creating a positive atmosphere and tight-knit community here on the board.
Maybe that's what you want, though.
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Zaki Hasan
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I want to know what Zaki Hasan thinks...
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Damn right!
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John Mietus
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Dan Marcoux wrote:
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Nope. Just an observation. No emotions involved. Perhaps it's you who needs
to step back, pause, and take a look around.
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