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Andrew Kneath Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 2:21am | IP Logged | 1
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To give the piece some context here is the original Iron Fist #15 cover...
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Ian Evans Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 2:53am | IP Logged | 2
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That was posted upthread Andrew.
And I think Wayne's argument is a persuasive one...it is not that JB is so sensitive to criticism, but rather that such criticism of a piece commissioned by a fan who has yet to even receive the piece is a bit - I dunno - mean.
And I think it's a great piece.
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Marcel Chenier Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 2:59am | IP Logged | 3
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Hm, when I first saw the commission, I didn't even think of IF #15, but when
I saw the cover, I realized I'd completely forgotten just how goofy Wolverine
looks in that crazy outfit!
Nice play on the cover, thanks SO MUCH for leaving out that awful costum--
even though the commission isn't even mine, I thank you.
Did he pick that up in the Savage Land or something? On special?
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 4:09am | IP Logged | 4
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It doesn't seem to me that JB is even slightly sensitive about criticism. Any number of negative comments have been made about this commission and he's offered exactly one direct response, and that regarded nothing more than identifying a specific drawing technique -- which is actually generous enough when you consider he's a professional artist and we are almost all of us manifestly not.
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Andrew Kneath Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 4:19am | IP Logged | 5
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That was posted upthread Andrew.
Whoops, sorry. Weird, I had viewed that page of the thread (which also had John's abortive version) but somehow I had missed that image there.
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Fabrice Renault Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 4:34am | IP Logged | 6
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Missed this thread. Really nice commission. A bit puzzled with the negative posts. Hopefully once I get my next job I'll be able to ask for a commission myself.
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Simon Matthew Park Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 4:36am | IP Logged | 7
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Beautiful stuff. I can see why someone would request that Logan be in his 'proper' attire....but I actually liked that Fang outfit. There. I've said it...now I can go on with the rest of my life......
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 4:56am | IP Logged | 8
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Also liked the Fang look. Note that the color scheme is similar to the JB-designed costume.
Heck, anything's better than the yellow/blue tiger striped costume.
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Simon Matthew Park Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 5:09am | IP Logged | 9
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I didn't mind that one, either! Logan's never exactly been a favourite character of mine, but I've never really objected to any of his 'looks' over the years. The Fang one I like the best, but the're haven't been any really bad ones, in my opinion.
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Thanos Kollias Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 5:34am | IP Logged | 10
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Did he pick that up in the Savage Land or something? On special?
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He picked it up from one member of the Imperial Shi'ar team in Uncanny X-Men #107, wore it in Uncanny X-Men #108 (first JB issue on the title ), Iron Fist #15 and Uncanny X-Men #109, when he eventually took it off.
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Rick Hannah Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 6:37am | IP Logged | 11
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Would just like to say that I, too, loved the narrative style of those Iron Fist issues. It was dramatic, unique and atmospheric and seemed to go well with the whole mystique of the book. And I remember people complaining, "Do you have to start every issue with 'You are Iron Fist...'?". My answer would have been "Yes!"
It seems Chris listened to those critics.
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Pierce Askegren Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 8:54am | IP Logged | 12
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I always figured Iron Fist's second-person present narrative was a counterpoint to Shang-Chi's first-person present ("I feels his blows like rain....").
The alert reader will note that Iron Fist's origin is essentially the same as that of Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt. That's because they were both cribbed from Amazing Man, a 40s character created by Bill Everett (who gets a nod in the IF debut).
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