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Bosch Fawstin
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Posted: 04 August 2008 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | 1  

Jim, Al....beautiful.

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Michael Huber
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Some go the high road, eloquently offered, beautifully phrased.

Al goes for the balls, in a Yancy street, back alley sorta way.

Who is to say which is more effective?

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Aaron Poehler
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Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | 3  

This thread is full of a whole lotta stupid.
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Michael Huber
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Couldn't have said it better, I think we have a winner!
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Wes Wescovich
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Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | 5  

Bosch, maybe you could cross promote with this guy.  He came here a couple years ago with similar results.
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Al Cook
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As a matter of principle, I refuse to click Wes's link.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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You know what's funny, Bosch? That Danish newspaper that you praise (in the link) for its bravery in commissioning the Islam cartoons was known long before that for refusing to publish cartoons even remotely disrespectful of christianity (from respected Danish cartoonists).

The issue started with a guy writing a regular  textbook about Muhammad and Islam for children. He couldn't get anyone to illustrate it because they were vary of violating the Islamic rule about not illustrating the Prophet.

So this christian newspaper decides that's their cue to contact a lot of well known Danish cartoonists to fix that, but instead of asking them to support this guy's efforts and challenging this obstacle by having them illustrate his story, they decide that gag cartoons are appropriate. If you'd actually read the cartoons, you'd know that half of them are making fun of the newspaper for coming up with the assignment in the first place. Because they rightly perceived the paper's editorial staff as a bunch of religious hypocrites.

For the first months this was dismissed as just this heavily religious newspaper acting like a bunch of hypocrites who were attacking Islam for purely religious reasons. Quite rightly, too.

It was only when several Imams in Denmark kept asking for the Danish government to intervene and punish them and later started misrepresenting these cartoons abroad and pressure started coming from Islamic countries to actually punish them, that the mess started.

The Newspaper editor who started this is a hypocritical asshole, but he still has freedom of speech. Salman Rushdie writes a great book on important issues and starts living under a death threat. Now, that's a freedom of speech issue that we want to defend.

Having to defend some slack jawed idiot who went out of his way to poke fun of other people's religion when demanding absolute respect for his own? It's like picking John Wayne Gacy as your test case for abolishing the death penalty. It's testing the principle to the breaking point.

And if that's supposed to be Mohammad, I thought he was fairly light skinned and coloured his hair henna? Is that sword authentic for the region and period? I had the impression that curved swords and scimitars are more commonly associated with Islamic countries in the Middle East.
It's also very long and doesn't line up with the hand behind his back. Is someone standing behind him with the sword? Is that the joke? 
And I think maybe his horns are too subtle. They are certainly not very visually interesting.
A different angle and a secondary character feeding him a straight line about Islam being peaceful might carry your point across better.
Maybe you should get some reference for the turban, too. It looks a little off.

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Brian Talley
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Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:27pm | IP Logged | 8  

I doff my cap to you, Al.

 

And I'm not really one for doffing.

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Brian Talley
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Some go the high road, eloquently offered, beautifully phrased.

Al goes for the balls, in a Yancy street, back alley sorta way.

Who is to say which is more effective?

*******

Or more satisfying.

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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 10  

Aargh!

Wes, don't do that! I innocently clicked on that link and my brain almost imploded from my accidental exposure to a barrage of anti-logic particles. 

Only the picture lower on the page of a Barbarian Bettie Page in a tasteful and empowering lack of clothing managed to counter its effects and restore my brain activity.

Thank you, Ms Bettie Page, for saving my brain. And shame on you, Wes.

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Michael Huber
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Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:45pm | IP Logged | 11  

I was gonna say....(Geez Knut),

AL!!! There's a Bettie page painting on down that totally saves the click!

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Martin Kogan
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And the self-promotion continues. On the other hand, say anything about the most successful movie this year...
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