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Robbie Patterson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 15 August 2004 Posts: 733
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | 1
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*cough*self-promotion*cough*
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that a nasty cough *of truth* you got there, martin!
All I've got from this thread was the promotion of the ignore feature! Man, that button saves brain cells! (:
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Mike Murray Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 530
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | 2
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I'd like to see a scene in which the character who responded to the horrific events of 9-11 by creating a comic book superhero character that would serve to awaken the world to the dangers of Islamic extremism realizes that other people also saw what happened on 9-11, and saw the videos of people getting their heads cut off, and didn't really need a comic book to alert them that these folks might be dangerous and that maybe he should have spent his time working for a charity or cartooning for sick kids in the hospital or something if he really wanted to make the world a better place.
And then the cartoonist character might suffer from pangs of self-doubt, like wondering if he is actually trying to profit from the deaths on September 11 by tying in his comic book to people's feelings about what happened, or if he isn't abusing a God-given gift by using his artistry to fan the flames of ethnic and cultural distrust and hatred, That could be an interesting scene too.
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Jim Campbell Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 12 October 2006 Posts: 380
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | 3
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As for this thread? Compared to some religion threads it's
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Knut, as I have said above, my feelings on the content of the thread are
NOT the relevant issue here. That would be tantamount to my requesting
that a thread be deleted because I disagree with the views presented, a
position for which I could -- quite rightly -- be pilloried and which --
quite rightly -- would be ignored.
My point is that this thread serves only to promote Fawstin's work, in
direct violation of the forum rules. The lack of action in an
environment where threads are nuked on a regular basis runs the danger,
as I have (again) said above, of inviting the inference of tacit approval of
Fawstin's somewhat dubious position, and/or his product(s).
QUOTE:
I think it safe to say that the extreme negative remarks about
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Forgive me if I stifle a disbelieving laugh at the thought that mods on this
board closed down a thread for being too critical or rude about Alan
Moore!
Cheers
Jim
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Bosch Fawstin Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 23 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 141
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | 4
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Mike Murray Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 530
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:24pm | IP Logged | 5
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Anyway I'm not sure where all these charges of "self-promotion" come from, I think Bosch has been pretty well restrained in that regard.
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 22 September 2006 Posts: 7369
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | 6
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He's back? But he made such a grand finale, swooping his cape and making a speech and everything! That's so anti-climactic.
The thing that bothers me is that Pigman is so utterly unheroic. He's just a weapon. In fact, if I were to argue the exact opposite point, that Islam was good and the enemy were sick, murderous, evil and heartless bastards bent on wiping out every moslem man, woman and child, Pigman would be the perfect one-dimensional super villain.
If the Pigman in the book is as Bosch has so ... kindly .. suggested here, and the "hero" of the book shares his views and the general drift is as he has suggested, I think he will experience the backlash that he's obviously expecting. But not because we're all duped by Islam. Not because of the PC police.
Just because it's not good.
Good literature, even when it has a backbone of steel, is insightful, nuanced and complex in its understanding of human nature and the world around us. Everything Bosch has shown us would indicate that he lacks the capacity for that.
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Zaki Hasan Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8101
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | 7
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Knut Robert Knutsen wrote:
| insightful, nuanced and complex |
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Bosch Fawstin wrote:
| The words look familiar, but that phrase doesn't make any sense! |
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Edited by Zaki Hasan on 04 August 2008 at 2:34pm
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 22 September 2006 Posts: 7369
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | 8
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"Anyway I'm not sure where all these charges of "self-promotion" come from, I think Bosch has been pretty well restrained in that regard. "
I think his history on the board may tie into that. The first time I saw him post on this board he had something like 10 hits and he started a thread specifcally to promote "The infidel".
He was told about the rules against self promotion, and I suggested if he wanted to link to his website he could put a link in his signature at the bottom of his post like everybody else. He got all pissy about it and said he'd do whatever he damned well pleased and his thread got nuked. Twice, I think.
Aside from posting a few pictures of Pigman in the sketchbook thread I think pretty much every post he's made on this board has mysteriously triggered a presentation from him of his Pigman character and the Infidel book.
Even the war books that were supposed to be the topic of his thread? Several other people have brought up Post 9/11 war references in comics and elsewhere, but he's not engaging them in that discussion. Instead trying to turn the discussion (which he started) to The Infidel, which he apparently believes to be the only post 9/11 war comic in existence (only, not yet.) . If you look at his latest posts he practically boasts that he came here to talk about Pigman. (Of course he might now return to claim that was a joke. On us. Which he is above explaining.)
And with a mere 100 posts under his belt, I think the posts somehow referencing his great Pigman book easily makes up more than half.
It's all he ever does here. So it gets noticed.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 December 2004 Posts: 12734
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:49pm | IP Logged | 9
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Back from the long weekend. Just caught up on what's gone on in this
thread.
I thought we were going to have some heroic person come back and clean
up the mess that the ignorant and idiotic were going to make of this
thread, but it doesn't seem to have happened.
Surprise surprise.
Instead, our self-appointed hero has come back again and again to spew
his own brand of ignorance. A new, fresher brand, that can be yours as
soon as someone has the courage to publish it!
Fuck it.
It's about time someone came right out and said it:
Bosch Fawstin:
You sir, are an asshole. A self-promoting, hate-filled asshole with
delusions of grandeur and apparent major anger management issues.
Get yourself some help.
As for me, I'm getting you out of my face.
Good day to all.
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Bosch Fawstin Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 23 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 141
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | 10
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Interesting. I knew you were hurting, Zaki, but attributing words to me as If I actually wrote them......
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 22 September 2006 Posts: 7369
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 11
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Hey, Al.
I thought I was saying that. I must be more obtuse than I thought.
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Zaki Hasan Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8101
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| Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | 12
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Bosch, if you seriously think any of the vomit you have spewed and will no doubt continue to spew has any power to hurt me, then you've proved decisively that you don't know the first thing about me. My faith in my own faith isn't so tenuous that the delusional invective of a venomous hate monger shakes it.
You'll be shocked and saddened to know that the religion of Islam will keep on keeping on long after you and your "work" are left to the dustbin of forgotten history.
Thanks for caring, though. Toodles!
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