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Bosch Fawstin
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Al wrote:

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Your most honest post on this yet, Al.



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Al Cook
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Hang in there Bosch. More post is coming in that space.
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Bosch Fawstin
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Damn, you ruined it.

TBC.....
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Al Cook
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How, by taking the time to post a thoughtful response?

Don't run away - it'll be right up!

(And by the way,

 Bosch Fawstin wrote:

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Al wrote:

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Your most honest post on this yet, Al.


and


 QUOTE:
Damn, you ruined it.


are yet more ham-handed (pun intentional) attempts to discredit and
belittle me. Please, rise above this tendency if you want to be taken
seriously.)

Edited by Al Cook on 01 August 2008 at 10:15am
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Al Cook
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 Bosch Fawstin wrote:
I suggest to those who are genuinely interested in
what I think about Islam and Jihad and what I think we should do in order
to defend ourselves from the enemy's war on us, to read the essay's I've
written about it at my blog.


You must have missed my earlier post about this. To reiterate:

I have. Extensively. Your blog. The two other blogs that you are a
contributor to. And two of your other personal/promotional websites.


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Have any of you read the Koran, studied Mohammed's history,
have any of you done your homework on the history of Jihad, both soft
and hard?


Yes, I have. Again, as I said in my earlier post, the entire response to the
terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and their impact on North
American culture is a topic of particular interest to me; I read and watch
items relating to the topic voraciously, and will continue to do so.

Study of Islam and the Koran and the Muslim experience in the Arabic
world, Asia, Europe and North America are a key component of exploring
that topic.


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WIthout that base of knowledge, all I say will seem like an
attack


Then why even bother? If you truly believe that no-one here is educated
and/or experienced enough to properly interpret what you're saying, why
waste your time and effort? What is your purpose here then?

And the bigger question that has crept into my mind over the last few
minutes of this thread: Why have you not already answered the question
"Are you advocating that the United States of America makes it their
mission to put an end to the religion of Islam worldwide, violently if
necessary?" with a direct "No, I'm not."?


Edited solely to fix bad 'quoting' HTML.

Edited by Al Cook on 01 August 2008 at 9:49am
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Zaki Hasan
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WIthout that base of knowledge, all I say will seem like an attack, when it's only an acknowledgement of the danger we face in ignoring the true nature of Islam and its Jihad.

To those who can't answer in the affirmative, why come here and pretend you have a right to argue about things you have no knowledge about?

*****

I have that base of knowledge, and everything you're saying is an attack.  It's as ignorant and reactionary as the extremists you're railing against.
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Al Cook
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Excellent point, Zaki.
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Zaki Hasan
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Thank you.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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"The Infidel/Pigman is a story you've not read, so I suggest you stop pretending you know what it's about, because you realy don't. My blog is there as a pre-publication promotion of the book, it's not the book, no matter what you infer from what I have there. "

Bosch. I haven't read the story. True. But you have presented a lot of your ideas as to what's going into it. That's all you're giving us, so that's what we're commenting on. And it's more than enough.  You don't strike me as all that complicated, Bosch. I'm not foreseeing a lot of layers in your story.  Not exactly Shakespeare. In fact, and I mean this seriously, judging from the way you express your views here and on your website, Mickey Spillane and Tom Clancy will seem subtle, complex and shakespearean by comparison.

This is the impression I get from the way you promote your book. That promotion is your way of telling us, the potential readers what the book is about. If I'm wrong, tell me where I'm wrong. While it's true that I haven't read it, surely you have. Tell me how I'm wrong. You have that power. And since I'm not going to be able to read it for quite some time, if ever, you are at no risk of contradiction.

From what I've read it's about some guy who goes into conflict areas tracking the bad guys wearing a costume made out of pig-leather so that he can frighten the terrorists with his uncanny power of being "unclean". Amazingly subtle. Is this wrong?

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Al Cook
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Zaki; it strikes me that a bit of biographical detail on your own religious
background might be relevant here, if you'd care to share.
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Al Cook
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Knut - I got concentrated on responding to the points that I did that I totally
forgot to respond to the suggestion that no-one could know what a project
that is being so aggressively promoted could actually be about. You hit the
basic points I was going to, so now I don't need to go back. Thanks.

Edited by Al Cook on 01 August 2008 at 10:38am
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Brian Talley
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Subtle as a 12 pound sledge hammer in the nuts.
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