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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 07 April 2025 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | 1
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News leaked that Donald Trump is staging a military parade in the capital
nine weeks from now, on June 14. For the first time in our nation’s history,
we will have soldiers and tanks flowing through the streets as a display of
our president’s might.
The stock market continues its collapse.
Protestors have started to awaken and stage significant demonstrations
over the weekend.
What do you get when you combine economic calamity, a budding mass
protest movement, and the regime’s eagerness to display its mastery of the
military on the streets of an American city?
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Brian Floyd
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And think of how much money it will waste to hold that military parade.
Oh, and its for his 79th birthday. *rolls eyes*
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James Woodcock
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I learned a lot about journalism during Brexit.
And I am seeing the same mistakes being made now.
During Brexit, supporters of Brexit would say lie after lie after lie, and
journalists would often question them about the lie, but they would never
ask the question that would kill the debate stone cold dead.
For example, Northern Ireland sometimes came up (no way near as much as
it should have) and when asked about how goods would travel between
Northern Ireland and Ireland, everyone got away with saying there were
technologies that would allow travel.
Not once did I see any of the many, many MPs be asked ‘What were those
technologies’.
Because then it would become apparent that none of them had a clue what
they were and were just parroting what they had been told to say.
Hint - there were, and there are, no technologies that would allow this ro
happen, which is why we are still in a messed up situation.
I am still seeing people in governments able to make wild statements, that
are challenged, but not with a killer question.
But then again, I am also seeing politicians getting bolder. I’ve seen several
tell reporters to literally F off on camera.
Which is really disturbing
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 08 April 2025 at 5:56am | IP Logged | 4
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As an example - I have yet to see anyone say to Trump - why do you think a
trade deficit is a tariff?
They may have said it to others, but Not Trump.
And yes, we know he will have a bullshit answer and say the journalist is
very unfair, but at least have the guts to ask the question to his face. Ask
him why he doesn’t understand basic economics.
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Dave Kopperman
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| Posted: 08 April 2025 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 5
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Given how long Trump has been stuck on the idea of America being the world's economic bitch (check this clip at 4:10, though the whole conversation around it is interesting), my suspicion is that it's either something he picked up from his father or some Wharton professor - or, who knows, it came out of one late night Freshman dorm bullshit session. His fervent, unquestioned belief in them now definitely has that vibe of a thing that's been a conviction of his for decades.
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 08 April 2025 at 1:24pm | IP Logged | 6
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The true story of where Trump got his Tariff ideas is incredibly stupid, as
befits the garbage pail kid in the White House.
Jared googled economic advisors, found a book he liked, cold called the
corrupt and moronic author and off we go. Peter Navarro’s ideas are all
endorsed by the economic guru, “Ron Varo”— an anagram of “Navarro.”
The story: link
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Dave Kopperman
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@Mark: right, but that's buying a hammer based on the idea that something needs to be nailed (as it were). It's the fixation on the idea that's key here, and the ongoing symptom of Trump having a fixed belief that he cannot be moved off of, so every incompetent crony in his orbit rushes to make them happen, incompetently.
That conversation went a little something like this:
Trump: Hey, Jar-Jar, I'm gonna do tariffs because I heard they're great. What are they?
Jared: (furiously scrolling on phone) processing... processing...
Musical stab plays, probably the instrumental version of 'Muffin Top', and we cut to a commercial.
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John Byrne
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Noticed something odd. In the early days of my career I had a habit of drawing people with small mouths, especially when they were shouting. This was not a conscious choice on my part. To this day I still don’t know why I did it. But I have noticed that Trumf actually looks like that!
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Mark Haslett
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Trump is evil and poorly rendered.
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Mark Haslett
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Dave- Trump is someone who bankrupted his businesses so many times
that no banks would finance him. This drove him into the arms of Russian
financers and oligarchs. They are the ones who benefit the most by the
chaos of tariffs, and they are the ones who put it in Trump‘s mind that a
strong man takes control of the economy using this weapon.
If the president and vice president were Putin and Xi, there is not one thing
that would be different. The United States has shot itself in the foot, and
then taking that gun and put it in its mouth economically. China is stepping
up around the world to say, you may not like me, but at least we do business
by the rules. America doesn’t do that anymore. The wind here for Russia
and China is so enormous that no other method could have delivered it.
The idea that Putin and Xi could buy this kind of cooperation from Trump for
ten or twenty billion dollars (in his newly launched Swiss- bank style
“crypto” account) is not just plausible— it fits the facts better and makes
more sense than any other explanation out there.
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