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John Byrne
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Posted: 22 August 2020 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | 1
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I see there’s a FaceBook page called “Byrne Victims” that is not only pirating these pages, but has more than six times as many members as this Forum. Let’s have a resounding sigh...........
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John Byrne
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 8:55am | IP Logged | 2
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And so it ends.......Because of the double-page spread at the beginning of this "issue" there will be only four pages this week. And those four pages contain the end of this cycle--including the last page, which has literally been in my head for YEARS, in one form or another. Hopefully, the end will satisfy. . . . . . . . . .
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Paul W. Sondersted, Jr. Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 282
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 8:56am | IP Logged | 3
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I was banned from that group years ago (and the moderator's other John Byrne "fan page") after having the audacity to react negatively to "fans" on those pages who went out of their way to visit a fan page only to besmirch the subject of the fan page.In retrospect it turned out to be a good thing to get banned from those pages. Far too many hypocrites & a few ignorant posters who claim to be fans of JB, yet have no knowledge of the JBF here.
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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 10953
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 11:10am | IP Logged | 4
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I wasn't reading comic books when Phoenix returned. When I started up again, I'd heard of it and was immediately turned off to the idea. I was such a fan of the original story and it had remained a constant re-read that I felt it was for the better that I missed it. I eventually tracked it down as I was catching up on wheat I missed in JB's FF run. It definitely exceeded my expectations - it was an inventive take.
ELSEWHEN blows the doors off it though. It feels much more organic to the original published X-MEN issues. I love seeing X-Men comic book action and grandeur, but these quieter moments in which the characters interact and bounce off each other makes the series.
And I really like what Claremont did in the original series, but it's such a kick to "hear" JB scripting this.
I'm just so grateful to have this series now, particularly during a pandemic lock down that persists in my region of the country. Reading the series has me revisiting the original series and X-MEN: THE HIDDEN YEARS that I have here on the shelves. It's great breaking out ESSENTIALS editions, TPBs, and original issues. I think my favorite companion piece has been the recent IDW X-MEN ARTIFACT EDITION - you get caught on a certain page, and it leads to breaking out the source issue, and the vicious circle continues!
Thanks for bringing these old friends back, JB - it means a lot to me
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Philippe Pinoli Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 03 September 2004 Location: France Posts: 1331
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 5
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Nothing from you could disappoint us, JB. We are dreaming awaken for months thanks to you and your scratching of an itch which just lead us to thursday and YOUR end of YOUR arc. History of comics is being written (and drawn !) in front of us. Never was I so excited since your finishing of JBNM !!!
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 16591
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 12:27pm | IP Logged | 6
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John Byrne wrote:
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I see there’s a FaceBook page called “Byrne Victims” that is not only pirating these pages, but has more than six times as many members as this Forum.... |
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For whatever reason, it seems that many people these days can't be bothered to visit a message board like this. Instead, most all their online activity is apparently regulated to social networks.
Back at my shop and also at my booths I have regularly told customers about this forum, Yet, despite the recommendation to those customers whom I know are fans of JB's work, I have only seen a few actually post here over the years. When "Elsewhen" started, I heavily promoted it to my X-Men and JB customers, but I get the feeling that most of them likely check the pages out on one of the other sites that re-post the pages.
I don't attribute the lack of interest in visiting the board to read the story to any animosity or such, though. It seems more of a "one-stop shopping" mentality. If someone on Facebook has a page there where the pages are being posted, I'm guessing some of the fans stick with checking it out there since they are already logged in and using the site. That's just a guess, though, since I never polled anyone I know about the matter. I would think, though, the chance to discuss the stories and art with the actual creator would be a BIG draw for coming to the board here.
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Mark McKay Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2276
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | 7
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JB, when you say the end of this cycle, do you mean Elsewhen will end here, or just this Phoenix story?
Either way, thanks as always for sharing this work. It’s been an amazing read!
Edited by Mark McKay on 23 August 2020 at 3:01pm
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 9154
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | 8
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John Byrne wrote:
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Matt: For whatever reason, it seems that many people these days can't be bothered to visit a message board like this. Instead, most all their online activity is apparently regulated to social networks.
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I’ve heard a lot of people say they don’t have the type of email needed to sign up here.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 01 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 7543
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | 9
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It's sad that some feel the need to pirate rather than do the tiny bit of work necessary to come here and get this story directly. It isn't rocket science to get an email address. And it's disrespectful to the creator to steal his work and post it to Facebook instead of guiding the interested to his website.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 2:13pm | IP Logged | 10
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And JB, I cannot wait to see this page that's been on your mind so long. I'm glad that this cycle of stories erases Days of Future Past from the timeline-- it should have been a "wasn't that a GREAT story!" and left where it was--and that this hopefully opens the door to a future where the X-Men's struggles will never be in vain.
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Joel Tesch Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | 11
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And it's disrespectful to the creator to steal his work and post it to Facebook instead of guiding the interested to his website.
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The Byrne Victims page goes to great lengths to guide people interested in Elsewhen to come to this page. The owner/moderator is a huge JB fan. Yes, there are the occasional knuckledheads (which you get anywhere), but overall it's a fun spot.
Edited by Joel Tesch on 23 August 2020 at 2:32pm
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Jim Petersman Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 26 June 2012 Location: United States Posts: 668
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Posted: 23 August 2020 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | 12
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I’ve heard a lot of people say they don’t have the type of email needed to sign up here. _______________________________________
I signed up using my Facebook email, so that excuse won’t work for anyone belonging to that group.
But do you even need to be a member to see Elsewhen? I know I’m often not signed in when I view the pages. Perhaps there are more people looking here that just don’t bother to create accounts 🤷♂️
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