Never said "having a candidate who can operate at a minimum human level after 8PM" would be a catastrophe.

Also, I'm not interested in continuing this lopsided debate... no one seems to want to focus on the other guy who's self-serving and content with blowing up the Constitution. THAT'S a problem.... and we can solve it by standing united. (You can't tell voters that their votes count but then disenfranchise all the voters who voted for Biden in the primary. We want reliability, not chaos.)

Let's NOT keep NORMALIZING that guy.

If you don't want to acknowledge THAT there's nothing I can do.

-C!

Funny you mention the democratic primary because I wasn't aware they had one ( yes, I know the sham they had was called a primary ).

Sure, but where are the compelling arguments for Trump?  Take the debate - "He ignored all of the questions, took no responsibility for anything that happened under his watch, took credit for things he had nothing to do with and spewed racist nonsense, but he sure was loud!  I had my doubts, but now I KNOW that's my guy!"  Or there's his recent diatribe about whether its better to get electrocuted by a bad battery from an electric boat or eaten by a shark.  Or the Epstein files or...  

When all is said and done, what will convince The Undecideds is completely unknown and I really wish the "step down" crowd would at least acknowledge that.  So far, everything I see from that group reminds me of the underpants stealing gnomes from South Park:

Phase 1 - Drop Biden

Phase 2 - ???

Phase 3 - Victory!

"President Biden is old" is hardly news; it was a Definite Concern back in 2020 as well.  Moreover, he's never been one for stirring rhetoric and he's frequently flubbed his lines (his "gaffes" are the stuff of legend).  It wasn't a dealbreaker back in 2020, so it won't necessarily be a dealbreaker now.

But even if you feel there's a significant risk that it is, it's not like swapping out the ticket is a guaranteed success.  You lose the incumbency advantage (I think even Harris would take a hit since she wasn't In Charge) and if the Democrats nominate the "wrong" candidate (which, for all we know, could be any of the names currently being floated around for one reason or another), then the Undecideds may think that "we survived Trump before and it's not like he can run again; I'm sure it'll be fine."

Maybe I'm paying too much attention to Allan Lichtman's opinion, but I can't really see dropping Biden as the best option if the Democrats actually want to win.  That said, I do think the campaign should have Harris do more events as if she WAS going to take over the ticket to kind of sell people on her as fully capable to take over if Biden doesn't make it the full four years.

For reference: At this point in the last election, Biden was up 9 points in the polls and barely won by 40 thousand votes in a few swing states.

Bidens approval rating is currently at 37.5%. Historically in the last 40+ years NO incumbant with an approval rating of under 40% has won reelection.

Democrats need to stop burying their heads in the sand and wake up because there is a very real chance that we're going to have a convicted felon as our next President.