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Ben Stamer
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I understand people are going to disagree with this and that's fine.

I am not a Trump fan, but she and her party are now so insanely radical (thought we are now being gaslit that they aren't and they're projecting) that I could never support their current status in an election. I live in CA my whole life and know just how bad she is.
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 3:21pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Ben, what positions do you believe are radical?
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

This should be good.
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Ben Stamer
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 3:42pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Eliminating private healthcare, giving minors sex changes and taking kids away from parents if the parents don't support said sex change, letting men compete in women's sports and changing Title IX, gun confiscation and mandatory buybacks, letting anyone through the border and not deporting people who are here illegally, defunding the police, raising money to free violent rioters, price controls, eliminating the filibuster, antisemitic people in the party going unchallenged, banning plastic straws, reducing meat consumption.
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Literally none of that is on the ballot or in the platform.

I live in CA and literally none of that describes life here.

The opposite case is true in terms of immigration- Harris oversaw the
bipartisan creation of the toughest immigration bill in 50 years —and Trump
killed it. If he wins, it’ll never pass, but Harris has pledged to pass and sign
it.

Are you aware of this?
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

That’s a mighty impressive list of boogeymen, there, Ben. You forgot setting up a litter box in classrooms for kids who self-define as cats and harvesting adrenochrome in satanic rites, though.  Harris is going to make all of it legal.

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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 4:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

You keep up pushing those MAGA lies, Ben. It won’t make them come true,
but I guess it makes you feel better about your choice.
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 4:57pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

 Ben Stamer wrote:
 Eliminating private healthcare, giving minors sex changes and taking kids away from parents if the parents don't support said sex change, letting men compete in women's sports and changing Title IX, gun confiscation and mandatory buybacks, letting anyone through the border and not deporting people who are here illegally, defunding the police, raising money to free violent rioters, price controls, eliminating the filibuster, antisemitic people in the party going unchallenged, banning plastic straws, reducing meat consumption.

I’ve lived in CA for nearly 30 years.  None of what you write is on the national platform in any measure.  Aside from “banning plastic straws” it ain’t a part of CA law either.  That said?  Waiting for the “they want to take away your gas stoves and washer/dryer” shoe to drop.  Actually surprised that “nugget” wasn’t included in this list of absurdities!   
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Ben Stamer
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 6:16pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

One party can define woman and the other cannot.

But go ahead and deny it with namecalling and mockery. I was never uncivil or insulted anyone.
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

…namecalling and mockery…

•••

Where?

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Who was uncivil towards you, Ben? Who insulted you?

This is the exact same “woe is me, I’m the victim” card Trump loves to try
and play. You’re gonna have to show where any of us called you names,
insulted you or was less than civil towards you.
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Posted: 24 August 2024 at 8:31pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

 Ben Stamer wrote:
 One party can define woman and the other cannot.

Just to be clear, are you talking about the same party that denigrated, name called, was abusive to and (quite frankly) ugly when a woman competed in the Olympics as a boxer this summer, yet didn’t “look female” to some?  The same woman who was born a woman yet that didn’t get in the way of the party you’re upholding going after her in such a vile, hate fueled manner.  That party?  

Cool. Glad we’re on the same page now.  
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