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Joe Zhang
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From the guy who broke Watergate:
Carl Bernstein’s View: A Hillary Clinton presidency
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Mike O'Brien
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Thanks Geoff!
You know, Andrew Jackson used to beat guys to death in bar-fights for besmirching the good name of his whorish wife.* Plus he killed natives with his bare hands and used that as a campaign selling point.
* - Well, kind of...
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Scott Richards
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After the last eight years I see the party uniting behind its nominee.
There's a difference between the party uniting behind the nominee and the voters uniting behind the nominee.
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Kevin Hagerman
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For sake of argument: If your name is Dick Cheney, everything you do FUCKING SUCKS. What an asshole.
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Geoff Gibson
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You have absolutely no proof that Cheney was drunk.
Because Cheney waited 12 hours to talk with the authorities. Why did he wait 12 hours to talk to the local sherrif? Was it because he wanted to sober up? Or did Cheney think that he would have a better memory 12 hours after the event?
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Brad Teschner
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lots of things point to the involvement of alcohol and shenanigans...Cheney's twelve hour delay, the absence of toxicology reports from the the victim, the Armstrong lady's changing story (first she didn't know about the accident until the SS responded but then she was an eyewitness).
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Adam Hutchinson
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QUOTE:
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Absolutely, but that's not what I was addressing. I think the story of an Obama nomination driving flocks of Hilary suppporters to McCain is ridiculous. I'd surprised if more than 10% (pulling a number out of the ether) of her Democratic supporters voted for McCain in the general election.
That being said, to me it seems, that Obama is far successful at "converting" independents and doesn't rile up the "vast right-wing conspiracy" as much as Hilary does.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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Because Cheney waited 12 hours to talk with the authorities. Why did he wait 12 hours to talk to the local sherrif? Was it because he wanted to sober up? Or did Cheney think that he would have a better memory 12 hours after the event?
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Cheney didn't wait 12 hours the sheriff did. Everything he heard pointed to an accidental shooting so he decided to wait until the next morning to conduct an interview. Read the official report.
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Brad Teschner
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Cheney didn't wait 12 hours the sheriff did. Everything he heard
pointed to an accidental shooting so he decided to wait until the next
morning to conduct an interview.
Okay, so this leads me to believe there was either involvement from Cheney or the sheriff is an idiot. A guy gets shot in the face on a hunting trip and he doesn't have the good sense to administer a blood alcohol test?!?
Does that REALLY make sense to you, Christopher? Does it really seem right?? If YOU shot a guy in the face on a hunting trip do you really think you'd get twelve hours to yourself before reporting to the authorities?
C'mon, man.
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Scott Richards
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That being said, to me it seems, that Obama is far successful at "converting" independents and doesn't rile up the "vast right-wing conspiracy" as much as Hilary does.
I think it's because the "vast right-wing conspiracy" thinks they would have a much easier time beating Obama than Clinton when all is said and done. They just need to make sure Clinton doesn't get the nomination.
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Brad Teschner
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I think it's because the "vast right-wing conspiracy" thinks they would
have a much easier time beating Obama than Clinton when all is said and
done.
What makes you believe the right wants Obama over Clinton? I would think it's clearly the opposite.
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Tom French
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I agree with you, Brad. It seems to me that rallying the right would be EASIER if Hillary were the nominee -- they already hate her.
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