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Steve D Swanson
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The qualifications for political leadership that I've seen from different people (online and off) always baffle me. I've heard people (not just Jodi) say that they favor lawyers, I've seen people say (in this election, and the 2000 election) that not having a passport and not travelling extensively was a black mark against a candidate, I've seen people who say there should be an IQ test for anyone entering politics and that only those in the top percentile should be allowed to run (oddly enough advocated by people who would be in that top percentile), I've seen people who say only those who have attended University should be allowed to run, I've seen a lot of that kind of thing and it wears on my patience.

Some people can't afford to travel extensively, so only those who can need apply? Some people have no interest in being a lawyer, they need not apply? Some people are only above average in intelligence, but make up for it with honesty, integrity, diligence and leadership, (not saying more intelligent people don't have those qualities, but I am saying that combination is extremely rare and I want those people in politics, whatever walk of life they come from) they need not apply?

I think teachers are under represented in government, I think that doctors and nurses are under represented, I think that union guys are under represented and I believe that blue collars are barely represented at all. By the people, for the people and of the people. Everybody deserves a voice. And if someone is going to tell me he understands my life, well, by God, I hope he's lived it because otherwise it's just so much bullshit.

My dad was an electrical planner for the city of Calgary, he started out digging electric post holes, then he was a laborer, then he got his electrical lineman apprenticeship, then he became a journeyman, then a foreman, then a crew foreman, then an electrical planner. He designed the jobs for the crews and if any of them had a question, he could answer it, and if anyone had a complaint, he could agree but tell them they had to suck it up, and they trusted him, why? Because he had been what they were and knew the job inside and out. The electrical engineers he worked with had a different skill set, and different knowledge, but there's no doubt that he had the credibility and the respect of the men when often the engineers didn't. Some kinds of knowledge, some kinds of credibility you can only gain from sweat and blood and there's no other way to get it.

Blood? That's not hyperbole. My dad lost his leg when I was two years old. When he was released from the hospital he was offered an office job but chose to stay out in the field to prove that he could. He climbed poles for seven years on one leg.

And then there's my mom, she raised three boys who were way too active, way too dangerous, way too smart, way too big but she was in charge. She had to be tougher than the four men in the house or the house would have fallen apart around her. She had to stop us fighting, had to fix the damage when we got out of hand and through it all she tried to raise us to be the best versions of ourselves that we could be. She is the strongest women I have ever met, and while I am more like my dad in basic temperament I am much better at dealing with people and relating to people than he is, and that's because she took the time to show me how.

Both of them are the type of people that I want to see in politics, and I believe we need to see in politics. But neither went to University. Neither have travelled extensively. Neither are lawyers. Both are very intelligent, so I guess they qualify on that point. But, still, they need not apply.

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Your parents are remarkable people. Did your dad lose his leg on the job? 
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Yes, Joe, and thank you, they are great parents.

 

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Jodi Moisan
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Steve your parents do sound like great people. My dad left school before graduating because his dad was very ill and he helped take care of his family. When he met my mom he was barely 18. They fell in love and married, he got a job in a factory and my mom was a telephone operator. They had 3 kids, me being one of them.

As we grew up my dad and mom never put us in daycare (we called it a babysitter back then) they worked opposite shifts so to have their children parented by one of them and not a stranger. My parents always did with out, while we kids never felt like we didn't have everything.

My dad is one of the most honest , integrity filled men I know. This is a man that did not have a high school degree but worked his butt off, moved up in his job so much so, that the company asked him to go into management. But because he was involved in the union , he felt he needed to protect the people he had worked with his entire life. He was a union president in a small locally owned factory (so no big money here) for about 20 years. He became so involved in trying to better his community the local democrats chose him to be democratic chairman for the county.

My mom moved up in her job and became an office manager. These people worked harder than anyone I know. They put all three of their kids thru college. My dad is my hero and I love him more than anything.

Do I believe these kind of people should be involved in politics, yep and they were. My dad was asked to run for a state office, he choose to stay involved in politics but stayed local because he wanted to be with family.

So Steve your upbringing sounded a lot like mine, raised by hard working great people. But I believe being president of the United States requires more than being a great guy. We as a nation elected a guy "just like us" and we know how that turned out. When did having the leader of the free world become an "anybody can do it" kind of job? Maybe a long time ago that worked OK. But I want a person that is the smartest and most educated, along with being a great honest hard working man or woman.

After seeing this adminstration turn a blinds eye to the law, I want a person that knows the law and respects it, in office next time. 

Question for everyone:   If you have kids and you are given a choice of teachers, both are great people, kind and honest. But one is smarter and has a better educational background. Which do you choose?   



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I read where Biden has been making some strange statements, I am going to chalk it up to being tired from non stop campaigning, but what if he was ill again, how would that play out? I  wish him continued health, but would Hillary be waiting in the wings?

Based on all the rumors that Biden will have a "health crisis" right after the VP debates and step down so Clinton can fill the void and miss the VP debate, it wouldn't be a surprise at all.

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"The political left always aims to expand the permeation of economic life by politics. Today, the efficient means to that end is government control of capital. So, is not McCain's party now conducting the most leftist administration in American history?"
-- George F. Will
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Question for everyone:   If you have kids and you are given a choice of teachers, both are great people, kind and honest. But one is smarter and has a better educational background. Which do you choose? 

That's easy.  The one with the bigger breasts.

Okay.  Old joke.

Seriously, all other things being equal except for education and intelligence of course you would go for the one with the better education/intelligence.

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Re: Tom's post

Privatize the gains and socialize the losses. That's been the name of the game for a very long time. 

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Question for everyone:   If you have kids and you are given a choice of teachers, both are great people, kind and honest. But one is smarter and has a better educational background. Which do you choose?   

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The one that is best able to pass that knowledge on to my child. I've known some very smart people who would make terrible teachers. Being a good teacher is an art. Making learning fun and exciting is a skill. Being the smartest person in the room in no way makes you the most capable of being a teacher.

 

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Being a good teacher is an art. Making learning fun and exciting is a skill.

I love you, McCormick!

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Who doesn't?!
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Donald Miller
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Jodi said:
Question for everyone:   If you have kids and you are given a choice of teachers, both are great people, kind and honest. But one is smarter and has a better educational background. Which do you choose?

William said:
Being the smartest person in the room in no way makes you the most capable of being a teacher.

Nice answer William.

I will add that, depending on the teacher, that educational background can be a make or break.  Texas has been Alternative certifying teachers (to fight the incredible teacher shortage) for a few years now, and it is alarming that despite how well they may know their are of expertise(science, history, math, music), how little they seem to know about educating, and how best to impart knowledge.

It's not enough to be a math genius and a nice person, you don't teach a 1st grader and a 6 grader, or a senior, in the same manner.

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