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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member

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Today's Doonesbury:

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Scott Richards Byrne Robotics Member

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The first debate this friday is going to be interesting.
Obama's currently here locally being coached for the debate and there has been a lot of chatter on the local radio over his choice of coaches. It's an interesting choice. Greg Craig, the lawyer Fidel Castro paid to represent the father of Elián González in Cuba forcing the seizure Elián from the home of his Miami relatives and deporting the 6 year old back to Cuba after his mother died escaping from Cuba and bringing Elián to the US.
He also defended John Hinckley, Jr. when he was prosecuted for the assassination attempt on President Reagan.
I'm not sure he was the right choice for Obama. He may be knowledgeable, but Obama has already gotten a lot of flack for his judgment over people he associates with, so not sure why he would add more fuel to the fire when there are a lot of other qualified, and less controversial, people out there that could coach him.
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member

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One of the things that continually amazes me is how non-lawyers view lawyers, generally negatively, for their representation of certain clients. One of the things that lawyers hold most sacred is the idea that everyone is entitled to a good defense and zealous advocacy. It does not mean we always like our clients, but that we advocate for them. It is a noble thing defending someone because you believe in their right to a defense. So using who a lawyer has defended solely as a barometer of their character seems a poor barometer to me (though I know its done). As far as any coaching that will be done by Mr. Craig, I suspect it has less to do with substance and more to do with style.
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 23 September 2008 at 7:27am
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Todd Douglas Byrne Robotics Member

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My wife used to work for the internal computer help desk at a big law firm. I do have to give them credit for a sense of humor, making an Angel-referencing "evil lawyers" joke at the Christmas party.
'Course, a year or two after she left there, they were forced out of business because of some shenanigans they pulled in representing their clients.
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Scott Richards Byrne Robotics Member

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The part about it that they are harping on locally is who footed the bill more than what the case was about.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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"Obama's currently here locally being coached for the debate and
there has been a lot of chatter on the local radio over his choice of
coaches. It's an interesting choice. Greg Craig, the lawyer Fidel
Castro paid to represent the father of Elián González in Cuba forcing
the seizure Elián from the home of his Miami relatives and deporting
the 6 year old back to Cuba after his mother died escaping from Cuba
and bringing Elián to the US.
He also defended John Hinckley, Jr. when he was prosecuted for the assassination attempt on President Reagan."
OK, so are you saying Elian should have been raised by strangers, and Hinckley should have been tried without a lawyer?
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Brian Talley Byrne Robotics Member

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God bless Garry Trudeau.
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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member

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God bless Garry Trudeau.
I've been a Doonesbury fan since the 70's. I hit his website every day. We cry about Calvin & Hobbes, love some Peanuts, but I don't think I'll survive well without Doonesbury.
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Bruce Buchanan Byrne Robotics Member

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I haven't read Doonesbury in many years, but I have to say, this is pretty funny.
The main reason I stopped reading Doonesbury is that it became less character-driven and more focused on political commentary. The politics were always there, of course, but they gradually became more important than the characters. Is that still the case?
Edited by Bruce Buchanan on 23 September 2008 at 9:52am
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Brian Talley Byrne Robotics Member

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I have the earliest DOONESBURY collections at home....still on occasion read them. Still great stuff.
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Christopher Alan Miller Byrne Robotics Member

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Another Bidenism.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_No_coal_pl ants_here_in_America.html?showall
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member

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I have the Far Side collection, which is crazy heavy by the way, it is so funny and timeless.
Geoff someone in another thread felt to be president a person should have served in the military, I disagree, I think you should be a lawyer, lawyers have that respect and love of law, that I think is so important.
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