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Matt Reed
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You guys write more blocks of text in one morning than most do in an entire day.
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Al Cook
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I just quoted one of my favourite quotes by Sir John A. MacDonald, the
first Canadian Prime Minister, in the Canadian Election thread, and
thought I'd share it here.
It goes like this:
During the election of 1863, MacDonald, a well-known alcoholic (our first
Prime Minister, dontcha know!), sat in drinking in the heat of the day
while his opponent speechified for a couple of hours during a public
debate.
Eventually, the heat and the whisky got the most of MacDonald, and he
very publicly tossed his cookies.
His opponent made a point of it to the crowd, asking them if a drunk was
the kind of man they wanted running things.
To which John A. replied:
"I get sick not because of drink but because I am forced to listen to the
ranting of my honourable opponent."
Edited by Al Cook on 22 September 2008 at 9:19am
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Michael Myers
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| Posted: 22 September 2008 at 9:18am | IP Logged | 3
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"What does MF stand for, Michael?"
Mother-Fucker, Al. I copped the exact phrasing from a cat who was referring to LaRouche, and like it.
"You guys write more blocks of text in one morning than most do in an entire day."
When I have the time in the morning, I enjoy it.
Edited by Michael Myers on 22 September 2008 at 9:22am
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Michael Myers
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BTW, Jeff...a tip of the hat.
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Al Cook
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| Posted: 22 September 2008 at 9:26am | IP Logged | 5
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Knut Robert Knutsen wrote:
You guys should just vote for Dr Horrible as
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What - no love for Bad Horse?
Edited by Al Cook on 22 September 2008 at 9:26am
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Pete Turley
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a SKSoiNbnQY0
According to this article, there was legislation that McCain tried to get put through in '05 to shape up Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Democrats killed it - among them Obama, Clinton and Christopher Dodd.
How interesting - I thought it was all Bush's fault!
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Wayde Murray
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Nothing is all anybody's fault. Trying to find one person who is 100% to blame is as pointless as trying to find someone who is 100% blameless.
As soon as nominees were selected it seems a lot of people on both sides started talking in absolutes, as opposed to the more reasoned discourse we were seeing further upthread.
Too bad, really.
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Joe Zhang
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Edited by Joe Zhang on 22 September 2008 at 10:19am
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Jeff Alan Hays
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I struck a nerve, though I do appreciate Geoff and M. Myers comments.
And, at the risk of receiving further eBaum pics (sometimes I don't understand them lol) there's something else I wanted to comment on from M. Myer's previous posts: the concept of an overly pessimistic view of trends. The mortgage issue is certainly important, and there have seemingly been victims of others making and of their own making, but it's easy to be skeptical of media and popular reaction at times. Of course, it doen't mean things shouldn't be scrutinized and possibly changed, but isn't it another in a long series of financial shake ups that our country has periodically endured?
For me, it's similar to the global warning issue. I've had a fair amount of biology, enviromental science, physics, chemistry etc. in my life and I'm skeptical about the amount and significance of human impact on global conditions.
There seems to be an overall tendency to embrace the catastrophic. While I'd think this might be secondary to improved communication and information dissemination in this internet and cell phone age, it may have always been this way. After all, people have been preaching proverbial and literal end-of-the-world scenarios for a long, long time.
My perspective could always change (I like to think), but this seems to be a prevalent trend.
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Jodi Moisan
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"I Detest What You Say, But I Will Fight to the Death to Preserve Your Right to Say It."
Geoff, one of my favorite quotes and you just lived it in your last post. You are a pretty cool guy. Thank you sir!
Michael I did not insult you, until you did it to me and you do it to others, alot. I generally treat people how they treat me . I just do it in 5 sentences of less, you put it in with your 8 paragraph posts. But bottom line is, was I right to do it, no I wasn't.
But as far as Jeff with a J goes, I continue to smite you. LOL
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Mike O'Brien
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http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/22/america/22mccain.php
Well, there goes another of McCain's talking points... and at this point, I suspect even the most Rovian of the right realize the American voters aren't stupid enough to continue to fall for the "when the libs do it it's bad, but when we do it it's good" mantra that they've been trotting out all season.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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"Your own Finance Minister, Kristin Halvorsen, said it well:
"Those who know the markets well are not surprised by what is happening. We may take a loss in the short term, but we'll profit in the long run."
And for those that are unfamiliar with the positions of the Socialist Left Party (of which Halvorsen is the leader) that translates roughly as "The Americans screwed the pooch again, but we'll be alright in the end."
Yes, there's a lot of bad decisions being made all over the world, but America is still "the leader of the free world" and the "shining beacon of capitalism". Which means that while there's a lot America can take credit for, it's also America that's going to get blamed the most. And of course our stock market went back up when the bail-outs were announced. It went down when the troubles were announced and back up when the troubles were sort of "resolved".
And hey, we over here get the benefits of the bail-outs without getting the tax increase. Thanks. Although why the US didn't choose to do this in some of the other proposed ways that would be more costly to the executives and stockholders but less costly to the tax-payer ....
Hey, when that stuff happened over here we just nationalized the bank and fixed everything at no expense (even a profit) to the taxpayer. But I guess that's not an issue in the US.
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