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Jason Czeskleba
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Quayle might have been a disaster if Bush Sr. had died during his term. I doubt Palin would have much effect on a McCain Presidency, like Quayle did not on Bush Sr. It's the possibility of her becoming President that is scary to me.
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Scott Richards
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Mike, did you notice in the article where Obama is following the same standards?
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Mike O'Brien
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Obama was informed that he's lying about McCain and did it anyway? No I didn't see that in that article, no.
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Scott Richards
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Doesn't look like a lie to me.
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said he was not aware of the e-mail to Fiorina, but noted that the Post reported on three occasions, between July 16 and Aug. 28, that Raines was advising Obama.
"If he was not advising, obviously someone somewhere along the way should have corrected the record," Rogers said.
It's not a lie if you find out it wasn't true after the fact. The fact that Obama's campaign didn't correct the Post any of the three times prior to the ad, to me, means there is a grain of truth to it, or, at the very least, they didn't mind people thinking Obama was being given advice.
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Dan Avenell
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McCain's just made a huge tactical blunder. His camp decided that what the voters wanted to hear after the Wall Street Crash was 'no more bailouts for Wall Street Fatcats.'
Turns out Bush just did that and it's stabilising things a little, and McCain is left singing the wrong tune.
Time will tell, but McCain's not having a good week.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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Isn't McCain supposed to be just like Bush?
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Michael Retour
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I can readily understand why speculators/gamblers/parasites that have ruined the American economy would not like LaRouche from looking over LaRouche's proposals. I can also see that LaRouche, like myself, rejects certain statistics. He's not the only one though. I watched CNBC today and there were all sorts of opinions being tossed around.
Tremonti wasn't running for office further research shows. He is appointed. I don't know what quotes were left out but I do like this:
In discussions yesterday, Lyndon LaRouche emphasized that the actual
breakdown which he had forecast on July 25, 2007 has already occurred,
and as of now, there will be no return to the system that existed prior
to September 2008. Only a new design of a system echoing the intentions
of Franklin Roosevelt at the 1944 Bretton Woods conference could rescue
the world's physical economy under present, post-August 2008
conditions.
To this end, LaRouche specified four necessary steps:
Step #1: Put the present international monetary system into bankruptcy reorganization.
Step #2: Create a new system, a credit system, rather than a monetary
system, in the form of an appropriately modern version of President
Franklin Roosevelt's intention for a Bretton Woods system.
Step #3: Organize the new system on the basis of an extended form of
the 1648 Peace of Westphalia system, rather than a conflict-system. The
IMF must be replaced by a treaty organization among participating
sovereign nation-states with complementary long-term economic missions
of scientific and related progress per-capita and per-square kilometer
of territory.
Step #4: Define a common, long-term mission-orientation of two or more
generations' span for increase of the productive powers of labor among
nations generally.
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Michael Retour
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Things haven't really stabilized. What happened was central banks injected 100s of billions of dollars into the stock market etc. to prop up the system and attempt to convince people things are fine. That didn't stop the crises.
Things are not fine and the crises has not abated.
McCain's gaffe was silly but then again he looks like Galbraith next to Bush.
EDIT: Morgan Stanley next? BBC reports they are the next victim.
Edited by Michael Retour on 19 September 2008 at 7:03pm
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Christopher Alan Miller
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You're agreeing with LaRouche now? Couldn't you have picked someone more credible like Dionne Warwick and her pyschic friends?
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Joe Zhang
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GWB's little goodbye gift. Thanks for all the memories, pal !
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Christopher Alan Miller
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| Posted: 19 September 2008 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | 11
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And Obama agrees with Bush's plan.
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Joe Zhang
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I read or heard this somewhere else : America is Capitalism on the upside and Socialism on the downside. Now that the wealthy are in trouble as well, Big Government just can't be big enough.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 19 September 2008 at 6:39pm
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