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Mike O'Brien
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Oh, the stories...
HIPPA!
I kid, I kid...
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Mike O'Brien
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article818181.ec e
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Mike O'Brien
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http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=90e31ecd-60d8-4a84-aaf 2-0d92e09bd9f3
Awesome analysis of points I attempted to make a dozen or so pages ago...
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Kevin Hagerman
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Oh, the stories...
HIPPA!
I kid, I kid...
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Not patient stories. Co-worker stories. It's staggering how many people in health care try to compete with their patients. "Heart attack and stroke? You call THAT a bad day? Lemme tell ya..."
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Michael Retour
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Mike I did a little searching today and you know what? LaRouche makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the heads-ups on him. A lot of controversy I see too.
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Michael Myers
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My pleasure, Michael!
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Christopher Alan Miller
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Today, Quayle is remembered as a disaster
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Strange. I remember him as a winning VP candidate.
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Scott Richards
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Quayle was just harmless. He wasn't a disaster, he was just there. Don't you wish Cheney had been like Quayle?
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Mike O'Brien
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Strange. I remember him as a winning VP candidate.
and a losing one, four years later.
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Jeff Alan Hays
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"No doubt they write off charges. But you can't honestly expect me to believe they aren't making it up somewhere else."
They try. But because of malpractice costs and decreased reimbursement, more physicians retire early and the cost of running an office continues to increase. Many physicians have seen a decrease in income (adjusted for inflation) of 2% to 10% from the mid 90's to 2003 or so. So, the money is lost and, yes, physicians are writing off charges in their practices that they don't make up.
If the doctor that saw my daughter charged $850.00 for the five minutes he spent with my daughter, why do you think that was?
To stay in business and to be paid for his services. I'm sure he did much more than you are aware of. Plus, he likely has a business to run, $80,000 or more in yearly malpractice premiums, $100,000 + interest in medical school loans, and an income deficit from 6 years of post-medical school training (not to mention the difficulty of such training).
He still had another 7 hours in an average workday to make how much more.
How do you know what his work day entails and how much of that time he is being actively compensated for?
I've seen people lose their homes after being sued for unpaid medical bills.
Lawsuits for unpaid medical bills are not common. For most physicians, the time and cost of such a suit is prohibitive. And collection agencies are unsuccessful most of the time.
I know of few other professions where people can get away without paying as frequently as in medicine in medicine.
Another point- people sometimes report hard-luck stories about patients losing money secondary to medical bills. This is in contrast to the incredible number of times fees are dropped for low-income individuals. In Medicare, a doctor reports the patient as having "financial hardship"- he MUST do this as the government has made it illegal for a physician to drop additional charges in medicare patients!
Doctors, hospitals and even pharmaceutical companies have come up with all manner of creative plans, endowments and grants to pay for patient care and medications. You should credit these people and organizations for such actions as much as blaming them for costs overruns created by other entities.
Another thing I've noticed is that there are a substantial number of people who simply don't prepare for addition costs that may occur as a result of medical events. People forego insurance, savings plans and overall good, personal health practices assuming that the system or someone else should bear this responsibility.
Guess what, bad things do happen. It would be nice not to have to worry that you can't afford to pay for it when it does.
History and experience has shown- with a government-controlled health care system, there will be less access to health care, fewer physicians (particularly of specific types as retiring physicians overtake new medical graduates) and a slowing of new technologies and medication research.
How much of the NICU bill were you responsible for?
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Jeff Alan Hays
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HIPPA!
HIPAA gives me a Pavlovian response. Not salivation, though.
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Mike O'Brien
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Sadly, the once honorable McCain continues to lower his standards... still... at least he's not a fundementalist...
http://www.breitbart.com/print.php?id=D939MA9O0&show_art icle=1&catnum=3
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