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Dan Avenell
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 6:43am | IP Logged | 1  

Joe, geography was never my strong point either. In fact I learnt more about the location of many countries and capitals playing this excellent Flash game than I did at school.

http://www.travelpod.com/traveler-iq/worldcapitals


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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 6:44am | IP Logged | 2  

Respatory Therapists?  Whiny punks.  Sorry Kevin.  That's how it is.

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Times like this I wish I weren't posting under my own name.  Oh, the stories...

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Scott, you're not going to believe this (and neither am I!), but I totally agree with your health care solution for America.

I'm buying a lotto ticket today.

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Hey that's pretty neat, Dan.

Edited to add: frustrating and playable !


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Lyndon LaRouche is still around?!? I remember his wacky half-hour TV commercials back in the 1980s during his fringe presidential candidacy, but I had no idea he was still active.

LaRouche always struck me as a "psycho-ceramic." You know, a crackpot.

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 Scott Richards wrote:
Scott, you're not going to believe this (and neither am I!), but I totally agree with your health care solution for America.

I'm buying a lotto ticket today.

FWIW Scott, aside from my comments about price controls for the pharmaceutical industry, I completely agree with the rest of your health care solution (items 1, 2, 3, and 5).  With some modification, item 4 could be made workable (the elimination/reduction of frivolous lawsuits and patent reform would have a big impact on pharmaceutical costs, and given a longer patent protection periods would allow pharmaceutical companies to recoup their costs while bringing the cost of 'brand name" drugs down, thus minimizing the need and demand for lower-cost generics in the marketplace).

How can we (the voters) make all this happen?  I fear that neither McCain nor Obama really have this much vision as far as healthcare is concerned, or the ability to make it happen.

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 Scott Richards wrote:
I'm against extending the patents since that would extend the time until a generic version was available. 

As I mentioned above (and I think it bears mentioning again in direct response to your comment), longer patents periods combined with legal reforms (restrictions on frivilous lawsuits) would enable pharmaceutical companies to market their "brand name" drugs at a lower cost to the consumers.  Longer patent protection periods would guarantee then a longer period of exclusivity in the marketplace, which would allow the companies to amortize their initial R&D costs over a longer period of time.  This would result in lower-cost "brand name" drugs, thus minimizing the need and demand for lower-cost generics.

Also, don't discount the amount of dollars spent by the pharmaceutical companies in defense of their patents -- the generic companies are bottom-feeders who invest aggressively in legal challenges.  Their legal costs are justifiable expenditures for them because if they can overturn a patent prior to its planned expiration period, they can gain access to an entire product line or market category, thus exploiting another company's R&D costs while only spending a fraction of what the R&D costs would be on legal fees.

Again, in these situations, the lawyers ARE to blame for high costs because big pharma companies have to invest large sums of money for legal defense of patents that were obtained through honest research and development, and ultimately the consumer is the one paying the legal costs.



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Michael Retour
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Mike your patience might have been wearing thin but I am not associated with LaRouche and if I was I'd say so. 

Tremonti's quote was not taken out of context whatsoever and I don't recall anything left out of the quote so please add whatever else was said.  I don't think I left a single thing out when I read it. 

"What we are working on now is an approach to deal with systemic risks and stresses in our capital markets," said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. It would be "a comprehensive approach that would require legislation to deal with the illiquid assets on financial institutions' balance sheets," he added.

Paulson didn't add the banks are broke though. 

Some want to go back to a FDR model.  I am one of them.  Clinton is too.  Bill had this to say about that: "go back to the Home Owner's Loan Corporation that was a product of the depression.  That actually made a profit for the American people by stabilizing what was otherwise a disastrous run on the market for financing homes."

Now are Bill and Hillary Clinton associated with LaRouche because they're proposing FDR-like models for this crisis? 

Sorry Mike, pick another guy to pin the tail on the donkey with. 

Tremonti also said the following...

"We have no ideologies but ideas.  We do not approve of any ideology that characterized the last century: nor the latest ones, the ‘nothing-ism' of 1968 and ‘marketism.'  We are against nothing-ism, for instance, on school.  The last reports from the United States show [the evidence of] financial insanity.  We believe that there is more morality in a car than in a financial derivative, and we believe more in industrial production than in finance for itself."

Financial insanity? 

Now is Tremonti associated with LaRouche? 

I just searched the name Tremonti on Google.  Up he pops with the quotes. 

You deal with what Tremonti says not your ghost LaRouche. 

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Michael Myers
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 9:17am | IP Logged | 9  

Crazy MF
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Michael Retour
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"The chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Chris Dodd, D-Conn., warned the United States could be 'days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system' and said Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

"Dodd told ABC’s 'Good Morning America' on Friday that the nation’s credit is seizing up and people can’t get loans."

That's from MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26787984/

Now, is Dodd with LaRouche?  You're paranoid Mike. 



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William McCormick
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As far as charges being written off, you are denying something that you have no knowledge of.

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No doubt they write off charges. But you can't honestly expect me to believe they aren't making it up somewhere else.

If the doctor that saw my daughter charged $850.00 for the five minutes he spent with my daughter, why do you think that was? Perhaps to make up for what he knew he wouldn't be getting from someone else.

And if he charged the same amount for each one of the other 4 children in there at that time, he was billing $4250.00 for less than an hour. He still had another 7 hours in an average workday to make how much more. You don't see this as a problem?

And quite frankly you have no idea what I do or do not have knowledge of. I've seen people lose their homes after being sued for unpaid medical bills. I watched my grandparents lose their life saving after my grandfather came down with abestiosis. Nobody wrote off any charges for them.

Guess what, bad things do happen. It would be nice not to have to worry that you can't afford to pay for it when it does.

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"Schumer proposed an agency to inject capital into troubled financial companies in exchange for rewriting mortgages to make them more affordable. It would be modeled on the Great Depression-era Reconstruction Finance Corp., he said. Others have floated a type of Resolution Trust Corp., which was a 1990s fund to manage devalued assets from failed savings and loans."

FDR-model Mike... Schumer with LaRouche too?  Just how paranoid are you?  Anyone that doesn't agree with faked government stats and says the system is broke is with LaRouche per you?  That would be a long list. 

Looks to me like a fight between the morons that drove us into this and the FDR guys on the other side who want to get us out.  I told you this would happen. 

Straight off Bloomberg...

Paulson, Bernanke Expand U.S. Power to Rescue Markets (Update2)
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