Obviously, I'd be mad if another nation sent its special ops guys into the U.S. However, if America was providing safe cover for terrorists, then I wouldn't have much room to complain.

But we aren't, so it's a moot point. However, Pakistan is allowing terrorists to use its soil as a staging ground. Believe me, I'd much rather have Pakistan as an ally and allow them to police their own territory. But if they aren't going to fix the problem, then, again, we've got the right to protect ourselves.

And it's not just American troops in danger. Numerous countries, such as the U.K. and Canada, also have troops on the front lines in Afghanistan.

What do you Obama supporters think about this issue? And I'm genuinely curious -- is this an issue where you disagree with your candidate (like I disagree with McCain/Palin on, say, abortion)? Or do you think he's right to call for more aggressive military action along the Afghanistan/Pakistan border? 

QUOTE: What do you Obama supporters think about this issue?

For my part, I disagree with more military action in that area (and I also disagree with their abortion stance).  Iraq has only served to remind us that full-scale military action only succeeds in killing thousands of innocents, alienates us to most of the rest of the world, strains our economy with the costs, and produces and end that doesn't justify the means.  The only way to do it is to hire locals, train them as spies and pay them very well to find where our target men of interest are, then surgical strike from the air.  Even if it takes years to find him, it's better than the last 6-7 years of not finding him.  By the way, I don't think sending the military into another country and killing its people can be justified as self-defense.  The "self" has to be directly threatened.  When they are here is when we can engage in self-defense.  When they're in Afghanistan, they are far away.  Long-range attacks with missiles/nuclear weapons is a different scenario of course.

Yow. Not even close, Kevin.

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Which is why I said, "something along those lines."

While not a nation, it was a "special ops force" of a sort.

Did you really say that with a straight face?  Since when has the government stepping in ever actually fixed a problem?  :P

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Yes, I did. Contrary to popular opinion on this board, not everything the government does is a clusterfuck. We can bitch about McCain and Obama all we want but they are just a very small part of the government.

To give everyone good "free" healthcare, our taxes would have to go up significantly as they are in other nations with "free" healthcare.  People would have to get second jobs just to be able to afford to buy the same things they are buying now to offset their loss of income from the new taxes or curtail some of the spending.

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So how many of our members from countries with "free" healthcare have second jobs? I'm assuming all of you if Scott is to be believed.

As I said.  It's all a matter of priorities. 

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You're right. You should just go to work and go home. No kind of life because you can't afford health insurance and have to work 2 jobs to pay for it. Did you really say that with a straight face?