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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 26 February 2006 Posts: 3297
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I'm still a firm believer that everyone can afford insurance if they really want it. People who truly can't are low enough income to get government assistance. In almost every case it's a matter of people not prioritizing their insurance as being important enough. Basic insurance is going to run between $100-$400 a month, depending on whether you are single or a family. A second job or cutting back on some other things can easily make that amount if you aren't living at the poverty level (where you would be eligible for government healthcare any way).
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Yeah, that's a great country we live in. Where you have to work 2 jobs to have health insurance. You really think that's a better idea than the government stepping in and attempting to fix the problem?
Edited by William McCormick on 16 September 2008 at 6:13am
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David Ferguson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 March 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 6782
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Are we on the "right" channel ?
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That was Fox right?
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Scott Richards Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 22 September 2005 Posts: 1258
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You really think that's a better idea than the government stepping in and attempting to fix the problem?
Did you really say that with a straight face? Since when has the government stepping in ever actually fixed a problem? :P
To give everyone good "free" healthcare, our taxes would have to go up significantly as they are in other nations with "free" healthcare. People would have to get second jobs just to be able to afford to buy the same things they are buying now to offset their loss of income from the new taxes or curtail some of the spending.
As I said. It's all a matter of priorities.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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F*x
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5744
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David Brooks on Sarah Palin's qualifications. Interesting reading to say the least.
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Adam Hutchinson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 15 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4502
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| Posted: 16 September 2008 at 7:29am | IP Logged | 6
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QUOTE:
| Did you really say that with a straight face? Since when has the government stepping in ever actually fixed a problem |
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Um, Fire and Police Departments, Building Inspectors? ;)
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 12843
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Quite frankly I'm stunned. Imagine NPR or Ariana Huffington posing the tough questions to Obama.
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member

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Building Inspectors
Ugh! They don't help! Everytime I need a permit those guys come in, pass our work, then increase my property tax bill. Fuckers.
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Adam Hutchinson Byrne Robotics Member

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You know Geoff I actually added them as an afterthought.
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Scott Richards Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 22 September 2005 Posts: 1258
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Um, Fire and Police Departments, Building Inspectors? ;)
Okay. Federal government. :P
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Bruce Buchanan Byrne Robotics Member

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The U.S. healthcare system definitely has its problems - cost being primary among them. But it also has its positives. Health care in the U.S. is first-rate and is widely accessible. It may not be easy to pay for, but it is there - even in small towns and rural areas - and there aren't any waiting lists or rationing of care.
I'm not sure how you fix the cost issue without breaking the parts that are working. Not to mention the enormous tax burden it would take to pay for a greater federal role in health care.
Edited by Bruce Buchanan on 16 September 2008 at 8:01am
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Michael Retour Byrne Robotics Member

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Federal government provides what? Look at that and then you have the answer.
When did government itself become the problem? Do you have a better system?
PS - Want to hear something crazy? New York is allowing AIG to bail itself out.
Edited by Michael Retour on 16 September 2008 at 8:31am
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