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Bruce Buchanan
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:07am | IP Logged | 1  

Bruce Buchanan: I don't agree with his point of view often, but he's definitely
way up there on my list of folks worth listening to.

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You are talking about Dennis Miller, right, Al? 'Cause I'm sure not high on anyone's list of folks worth listening to!

 

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Al Cook
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:10am | IP Logged | 2  

I was talking about you, you doofus.
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Al Cook
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:11am | IP Logged | 3  

(But I can see that I phrased it badly. My bad.

Also, what I said applies equally to Dennis Miller.)
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Bruce Buchanan
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:16am | IP Logged | 4  

Al, my wife & son don't listen to me. Heck, my dog doesn't listen to me. There's no reason you (or anyone else) should either!

But that's a  nice thing for you to say. And you're alright, too -- for a pinko Canadian (joking of course)!

 

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Howard Mackie
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:19am | IP Logged | 5  

<<Olbermann is the Ann Coulter of the left.>>

Really? In what way? I just can't see that, and would love to see the side by side . I could see comparing him to Bill O'... they both run off about their opinions a bit much... but Keith tends to let people talk more than Bill does.

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Scott Richards
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:20am | IP Logged | 6  

I still don't understand what this "Marxist direction" you think he's going take us in. Care to elaborate?

 

Sure.  Here are a couple of articles I’ve read that lead me to that belief.

 

http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-kar l-marx-with-twist.html

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberatio n_theolog.html

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14kristol.html?_r= 3&ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=s login

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Howard Mackie
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 7  

<<The reason my right leaning items trumped my left leaning items is purely because of the current world environment.  IMO, I feel Obama would lead this country in a Marxist direction.>> 

Marxist? Please explain that one.

<< You can't have rights and freedoms if you don't have a country in which you can express those rights and freedoms.  I'm about checks and balances.  If the house or the senate were Republican controlled there would have been enough checks and balances in place to make me possibly consider Obama.  But, Obama, with the current Congress, would be able to steamroll way too many extreme things through with no one having their foot on the brake.>>

I agree about checks and balances(funny how the Founding Father's were so insistant about that)... and they have been missing from our government over the past 8 years. I guess I see Obama getting in as a possible way to bring us BACK to something other than an Imperial Presidency. Then again... I am quite naive.

 

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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:25am | IP Logged | 8  

"So who would determine what district a homeless person
would vote in, and what measures would be used to ensure
that they don't vote at multiple polling places?"


It would have to be the district or neighborhood the person lives in most of the time. They would have to register at a church or homeless shelter.

Also many of those who don't have a home don't have a car either, so it's not like they could visit multiple polling booths in the same day. And if they had a car, how would they be able to afford the gas money?


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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:31am | IP Logged | 9  

Here's a BBC report about Californian victims of the sub-prime crisis. They are living in "tent cities". This is a scene straight out of the Great Depression. Their vote should count just as much as yours and mine this election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBIJH6--vsM

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Greg Reeves
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 10  

Just had this forwarded to me (sorry about the length):

If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire."
If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."
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Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America. White teen pregnancies? A "blessed event."
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If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic."
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."
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Similarly, if you name your kid Barack you're "unpatriotic."
Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."
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If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless."
A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."
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 If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new African American voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.
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If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia.
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 If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an "arrogant celebrity".
If you are a popular Republican female candidate you are "energizing the base".
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If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are "presumptuous".
If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a "shoot from the hip" maverick.
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 If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are "an elitist-out of touch" with the real America.
If you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Annapolis, with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero.
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If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an "empty suit".
If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an "experienced executive".
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If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are "extremist".
If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are "strongly principled".
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If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
If you have been married to the same woman with whom you've been wed to for 19 years and raising 2 beautiful daughters with, you're "risky".
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If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child. But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky.
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If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you "First dog."
If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you "beautiful" and "courageous."
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If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter. If you have an abortion you're not a Christian, you're a murderer (forget about if it happen while being date raped.)
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If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents.
If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
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If you're a Republican senator who solicits gay sex in an airport bathroom, you get to return to your job in the Senate and are encouraged to run for re-election.
If you're a Democratic Senator who is out of public office and have an affair, your political career is over and your wife who has terminal cancer is to blame.

 

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Geoff Gibson
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 11  

The idea that political parties are "checks and balances" of each other is not what the founders had in mind.  The idea of checks and balances is that the judicial branch would act as a check on the legislative branch, and the executive branch would act as a check on the legislative branch and vice versa.  Not that democrats will stand up to republicans or vice versa.  Thats not what the founders had in mind.  
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 8:45am | IP Logged | 12  

That's pretty spot on, Greg. And funny. 
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