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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

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Thirdly, if you know Snopes at all, they are not prone to publishing things
like that without also addressing any inaccuracies in the information
presented.
Obviously, there are items in the note that are more or less opinion - i.e.:
"good at keeping secrets". But, as I said above, there are a large number
of statements that can be verified contained within as well.
In the unusual case that Snopes has published this without yet finishing
their usual meticulous fact-check, they will update the page if any of
those statements prove to be in factual error.
If they do, you can trust that I will re-post the update.
Edited by Al Cook on 06 September 2008 at 11:31am
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Michael Myers Byrne Robotics Member

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Al, I work with a utility company.
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Gas station? Fightin' words, Mark. ;)
When I was sixteen, the owner of the two-bay outfit I worked at (clean up, go'fer, and parts washing, but with unavoidable customer contact) took great pains to impress upon me, almost daily, the fact that I worked--as long as I spent my afternoons working for HIM--at an independently owned Exxon service station!
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Michael, here's another 'quote':
"Badges? We don' got no badges..." --Bandit Number One, Treasure of the Sierra Madre
It offers just as much relevance to our exchange.
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Michael Myers Byrne Robotics Member

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Monte wrote:
| The USA is definitely diverse, but as for being the most prosperous
country - prosperous for whom? How would you define prosperity? Most
everyone I know is living week to week, wondering when the next round
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It's a difficult time? Sure. With the newly released estimates, the unemployment rate has increased by almost a full 1.4% in just FIVE months, and it is only going to get worse before it gets better.
Having said that, what's your point as it relates to my own? Monte, never yet has the world seen so many people live their lives at such a prosperous level for such a long period of time as has occurred in our nation. This is indisputable. Now, tell me, did the nation collapse in the early or late nineties? Both were, after all, periods of recession. Hell, we could enter an extended period of recession like the great depression, and it wouldn't alter the veracity of my comment with regard to either the past or the present.
Edited by Michael Myers on 06 September 2008 at 12:32pm
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

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Michael - if you ever tire of utilities, I'm sure somebody needs an economist.
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Michael Myers Byrne Robotics Member

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The Progressive Curmudgeon
C'mon...
Edited by Michael Myers on 06 September 2008 at 12:25pm
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Keith Elder Byrne Robotics Member

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Dan: I realise this is only hearsay without proof. But she seems the type to me.
I.E., she's in the wrong political party. Hence, presumably a racist.
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member

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I know that this thread doesn't have thousands of people reading it and my request is not going to make or break this election, but I am putting a challenge out to every single one of you.
Democrats, Independents and Republicans take a few minutes and look at what each candidate (presidential and VP) voted for and supported, I mean what they actually voted for , not the soundbites you get from TV and the internet or the radio, actually find out what they did. There are plenty of sites that give very easy to read, voting records.
You don't have to come back here and answer questions about what you found, this is too important to not do this. Be an informed voter on the actual voting records, not what your candidate wants you to hear or the other candidates want you to hear, find out on your own. Someone may say they are for something because they think that's what you want to hear and they vote the exact opposite. As we know politicians can lie. Don't stand for it. If you do this I will promise that when you make that vote you will do it as an informed voter and will have a peace of mind.
Edited to add: if anyone comes back with a "hey here's a question, how long did you french kiss your dad?" you are an ass. LOL
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 06 September 2008 at 12:18pm
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Emery Calame Byrne Robotics Member

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I have no idea how accurate this is. It's clearly pro-Palin biased. But since we've already broken trumps on hearsay...does it matter?
http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/
Edited by Emery Calame on 06 September 2008 at 12:38pm
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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

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I know, what i mean is, the typical pastor
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No, the typical pastor does not say god is going to strike down America because it is a nation of sinners.
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Keith Elder Byrne Robotics Member

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Al, I think this is the extent of Snope's fact checking:
"The article was indeed written, as claimed, by a Wasilla resident named Anne Kilkenny, who says she has known Sarah Palin since 1992."
They make no claim about the veracity of anything in the note. It might be true; it does look a lot like all small town politics I've ever seen.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

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WILLIAM: That's because the typical pastor is afraid to preach what the Bible
says. But that's a different matter...
KEITH: As I said, it's typical of Snopes to post any factual inaccuracies they
find in pieces like that. Perhaps an update is in the offing.
Edited by Al Cook on 06 September 2008 at 12:48pm
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Craig Markley Byrne Robotics Member

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Didn't Rolling Stone have an article about McCain's faith? I seem to remember that the article said that he only goes to church when neede- Like when he wants to be seen. He's religious but not a bible thumper.
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