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Joe Zhang
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Palin's pastor : Goddamn *gasp* America? 
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While a bit preachy, he isn't saying anything that any other Christian pastor or reverend doesn't say.  Sounds like he's talking about Revelation and the end of times.

‘Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There's no exceptions here -- there's none. It's all.



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Joe Zhang
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Biden on the RNC "What do you talk about when you can't explain the last eight years of failure?"

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Bullshit. No different than what Wright said. Not quite as vulgar but still the same.

Edited to add: In response to Scott.



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You say Bullshit as if that some how magically makes what I said incorrect.  It doesn't.

And it's waaaay different from what Wright said.  Wright was preaching pure hate, not the end of times.



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Al Cook
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Wright was not preaching hate. He was preaching ANGER. World of
difference there, Scott.

In context, Wright's whole sermon was only different from Kroon's in the
amount of impassioned rhetoric involved. Their point was the same:
America has lost it's path from God and He will return to mete His judgment
on it for its unfaithfulness and betrayal of Him. God will "damn"
America/God will "strike out his hand against us".

So, yeah; BULLSHIT.

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William McCormick
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I have a feeling Scott's only defending Palin's pastor because ..well.. it's Palin's pastor. Let's see if Fox News picks this up.

 

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Joe Zhang
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"Wright was preaching pure hate, not the end of times."

Wright was preaching anger, which I don't think is right. Palin's pastor was preaching fear, which is just as bad. I am so glad as a kid I didn't take the Christian private school I went to seriously, even for a bit.
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http://tinyurl.com/6zetn4

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.

“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.

Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”

Racial and ethnic slurs may be “just Alaska” and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.

Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N’-Fetch-It, “darkie musical” swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colourful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article"

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I realise this is only hearsay without proof. But she seems the type to me.
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 Dave Pruitt wrote:
My response is, a couple of out of context quotes from Bush a few months after 9/11 say to me, he probably didn't know where he was. I doubt Bush would say that now

Wow.  Seven years after the fact you think he'd now be concerned about OBL.  Seven years.  I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to do with that information.

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 Al Cook wrote:
Wright was not preaching hate. He was preaching ANGER. World of difference there, Scott.


I agree with you in principle about there being a world of difference between hate and anger, but you can't deny that they're intertwined, most often.  That's what's always bugged me about legislation against "hate crimes" -- that makes it seem as though "hate crimes" are much more serious than simple "anger crimes" . . . that paints a picture that says that someone killed as an act of hatred is somehow more dead than someone just killed in an act of anger, for example.

Hate-related crimes do carry with them deeper sociological ramifications for a community than a single random act of violence fueled by anger, but putting more laws on the books to prosecute people for things that there are already laws on the books for seems redundant to me.

EDITED FOR TYPO -- changed "to" to "do"


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Excellent points, John Bodin.
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