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Christopher Alan Miller
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | 1  

McCain's speech got better ratings than Obama's.

 

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/09/mccain_tv_ratings_beat_ob ama_i.php

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Bush said all that, with that smirk of his too.  Shameful. 

Mike O'Brien you think the CIA can just go in an grab Osama?  Okay, let's say they can then how come Bush hasn't sent them to Pakistan (or wherever the heck he is)?

Bush could sail off to Crawford Ranch instead of being a total loser having at least have one feather in his cap.

I am a Democrat, like you, so I don't really understand why Bush doesn't just send in the rendition fellas and grab the guy. 

Ideas?

Oh yeah, the reason I said what I did about Pakistan is because we're already bombing areas of the nation and the people of Pakistan aren't real thrilled with it.  Can you blame them (especially if the government here knows where Osama is and can swoop in and do the rendition thing).

You have wars going on all over the world.  Add in the recent Russia affair and the attempt to divide China up into smaller pieces and we have a recipe for a world war.  Cheney must be happy, or sad (because Russia said "no thanks Dick"). 

UPS is reporting this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080904/wl_afp/mexicouscrimedru gs

Interesting isn't it?  Reminds me of the old Ollie North Iran/Contra stuff but now Ollie says "we don't negotiate with terrorists" yet that is just what he and Reagan did.  Someone from the Democratic side should bring that up to McCain and Palin and see what they say about it seeing as all these GOP jokers like to beat their chest about Reagan. 

Crazy world. 
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | 3  

I'm surprised McCain's speech got higher ratings than Palin's.  I would have thought more people would have tuned into to see her, just for curiosity's sake.
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Well... look, Michael - I don't know what the CIA can do - but growing up - and this is all just the result of the meida, but I understood that the CIA were the guys doing spy work in other nations.

My families military experience is all grunt work - I know nothing substantial about the various intellegence agencies.  But ... let's say this image that me and many other have about the CIA is not true.  Let's say we don't have spies and people who go in and do political hits and kidnapping and so on.  Surely our soldiers are not the ones to be doing it.  I say this with no disrespect to the soldiers, but it's like sending an elephant into a williams-sonoma.  We don't need a full invasion of a nation to get one guy.

Our soldiers have use - but not the way they are being used.  We don't send the troops in to fight gang members or bust up meth labs.  There are correct people for specific jobs.

Though... wonder how our military would do with the gangs.... hm... now that I think about it...

But that's another post.

I'm not against war - I'm not some peacenik - I'm against our soldiers being misused.  Wasting a soldier's life isn't like wasting a piece of paper or throwing out a coke you didn't finish.  It's a human life.  It means something.  (er, unless they abuse their power.  Then see me fly off in the other direction!)

I don't know why we don't have OBL.  But here's what we need to do - get him, and put him in jail - some sort of public jail - in a solid plastic cage over Times Square or something.  Because if we kill him, (which I'm ok with morally) we're making a martyr for his followers.  But if he humiliate him?  It'll hurt his cause.  Like they say in Macbeth - "You'll live to be the show and gaze of the time - paint'd upon a pole, and underwrit, here may you see the tyrant!"  You know?  Keep him alive - keep his dialysis machines working, feed him, that stuff - to show that Americans are good decent people, but show that we can catch him, that we're BETTER. 

That's my plan, anyway.

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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | 5  

 Michael Retour wrote:
Attack Pakistan?  Are you kidding?

What would India say?  Russia?  China?  The world?


What would they say?  Heck, that wouldn't even matter, because it would be sanctioned by Barack Obama.  Everybody would LOVE the idea then!

The only possible wrench in the works would be if some gun-toting crazy-eyed Caribou Barbie happened to endorse it as being us doing God's work.  All bets would be off then.


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Jason Czeskleba
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Senator McCain has no "executive experience" to speak of, which leaves the Republicans making a rather arcane argument:  total years of experience matter for a Presidential candidate, unless you have "executive experience" which apparently is a magical type of experience that conveys dozens of years worth of knowledge in a couple years. 

When talking experience, to me the breadth and depth of political experience matters more than the type.  It's not Palin's limited amount of years that concerns me so much as the fact that being mayor of a small town (population-wise) and governor of a sparsely-populated state perhaps do not convey much depth of experience.   But experience isn't that huge of an issue; what concerns me much more are her extremist views and they ways she has tried to abuse her executive power (firings, book bannings).

At any rate, I doubt anyone is making their voting decisions based on experience.  To the contrary, I think people are deciding who they like and then trying to use experience as a way to justify their decision after the fact. 
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | 7  

John, you're so close.  You have the answers right there in your post... so close..

Obama does things because he's an intellegent man who uses logic to calculate the best course.

Pailin hears voices.

 

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"Sure, we have nut jobs, but they're more concerned with blowing up abortion clinics and gay dance clubs."

You forgot animal rights activists.  Not ALL nut jobs are conservative.  You got to hand it to liberals though, they're more imaginitive.

This is the first time that I can remember where people were comparing one party's presidential candidate with the other party's vice-presidential candidate.

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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | 9  

Curious all the fuss the republicans made about Obama not wearing a flag pin, McCain wasn't wearing one last night.

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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | 10  

 Mike O'Brien wrote:
Pailin hears voices.


Source?

There's no denying that Palin is someone who prays, and that she believes in God, but I've seen nothing that would indicate that she has ever claimed to have heard voices, divine or otherwise.

Or are you merely spreading rhetoric around?
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | 11  

Well, how else does she know that something is God's will?

Souce?

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wait - the full enormousness of that just hit me - he's asking for a source for a HYPOTHETICAL.

Wow...

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