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Michael Thompson
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 5:21pm | IP Logged | 1  

Uh... the pastor is not an enemy of America, though. 

He's not? Well, he certainly isn't a friend of America, now, is he?

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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | 2  

Why not?  Dissent is one of the things that makes America great.
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | 3  

Mike O'Brien: I like the cut of your jib.
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Michael Roberts
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When listening to the "God Damn America" sermon as a whole, where he
talks about how government changes and has done both good and bad acts
in the past, it seemed to me that he was condemning specific acts by the
American government, not attacking the nation or idea of America.



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Mike O'Brien
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Thanks, Al!

I agree with Michael Roberts and Kevin Hagerman - it's every patriotic citizen's duty to remain vigilant and call out, loudly, any problems we're having - otherwise, how do they get fixed?

I think this is the underlying theme of this whole debacle - and it's the theme of Obama's "More Perfect Union" speach, for sure.  Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.  What's more, it's a little uncomfortable to bring this up, and I'm going to guess that some might object to this, but... I don't think it's the white man's place to tell the black man that he's done suffering.  Especially when we can see examples of continued oppression still happening to this day - (not when Lincoln made a speach or when LBJ cost the Democrats the Southern Vote by signing a paper - it's still going on.  See:  New Orleans)  - but even on the most basic level, it's just inncorrect for whites, who are born and raised in multigenerational levels of security and comfort, to tell the blacks to get over it, and move on with their lives and so on.  That sort of attitude is just making the problem worse.  I do not suggest that the black community needs to be put on the public teat or mollycoddled, (and neither does Obama) but ignoring the continuing ongoing plight will not make it go away.

And... to bring this really full circle - what does this have to do with Obama and his leadership abilities?  I get that some people think that he's tainted by the fact that his preacher is mad about the little oppression situation, and therefore, being exposed to black people and their situation makes him... what?  Incapable of leading the... what?  I can't even follow that logic.  But what's the real problem?    

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The problem is that some white people are scared that if they elect Obama the first thing he's going to do is make a law where white people have to carry black people around on their backs like human taxis.
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | 7  

That's not even in the Top Three, Dan.  But I have an out for that one; I got a Doctor's excuse already.  Gotta work the system.

 

Fight tha powah!

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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | 8  

The problem is that some white people are scared that if they elect Obama
the first thing he's going to do is make a law where white people have to
carry black people around on their backs like human taxis.

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That's silly. That would just start a riot over who gets to carry Beyoncé.
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Jeff Gillmer
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | 9  

You all fight over Beyoncé.  I'll just have to fight JB over carrying Hallie Berry.
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Mike O'Brien
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 1:06am | IP Logged | 10  

Erm, carrying the likes of Beyonce, Hallie, other beautiful women ... on your... backs?

 

You're doing it wrong.

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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 1:50am | IP Logged | 11  

Hope this comes out - couldn't quite get it to scan right, and he's not updating his website anymore, but...

From the best political strip of the last 7 years, "Get Your War On", comes this gem...

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I found a page this morning or last night, which showed a breakdown and word count of HC schedule that was just released. The most used words were "party" and "hollywood". trying a search but I am not finding it again. 
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