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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 June 2008 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | 1
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I still fail to understand why people think that someone should go to jail for making something that others consider "obscene".
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Marc Baptiste Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 June 2008 at 10:08pm | IP Logged | 2
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Vinny,
The obscenity exception to the First Amendment is one of the great bastards in the history of Supreme Court decisions.
What is it about "Congress shall make NO law" that is so confusing?
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 February 2008 Location: United States Posts: 6832
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Posted: 16 June 2008 at 10:56pm | IP Logged | 3
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Jodi -- you know he's gay, right?
That's OK I 'm into gay porn
Kidding.................................. just wanted to see if you are paying attention.
But it is pretty hot ;0)
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 16 June 2008 at 10:57pm
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 12:12am | IP Logged | 4
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http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=91beb0 24-7b54-450b-b4f8-bbbf224599cd
I will be interested to see who Colin Powell endorses
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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 07 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4154
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 5:40am | IP Logged | 5
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and it turns out it's all a shitty smear campaign
A typical move, it seems. If you can't win through facts, win by discrediting the person. That's crappy politics!
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5741
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 6:28am | IP Logged | 6
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The obscenity exception to the First Amendment is one of the great bastards in the history of Supreme Court decisions.
There are others that a far worse . . . . .
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 6:33am | IP Logged | 7
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Seems like much ado about nothing. Has he authored any cases on obscenity? I fail to see how having these images on his, ahem, hard drive could color his analysis of cases not dealing with obscenity.*
*And even if they colored his views in an obscenity contest, so what? Judges all bring personal opinions and philosophies to the bench. Would anyone object to a Catholic considering a case against a parish at which he was not a parishoner?
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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 6:55am | IP Logged | 8
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I still fail to understand why people think that someone should go to jail for making something that others consider "obscene".
Where's Maplethorpe when we need him?
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 7:06am | IP Logged | 9
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Maplethorpe is a good example Tom. Of the art he created that I saw there was little that, ahem, spoke to me. But I don't think it should be banned and I don't find it obscene. I think with some that I saw you can fairly ask where the line is drawn between erotic art and pornography, but I don't want porn banned either. I wouldn't want public funds used for Maplethorpe's art but I don't want any public funds spent for any non-commissioned art. That said if a museum, even a publicly funded museum, wants to show it -- more power to them. I just won't be attending the exhibit.
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 17 June 2008 at 7:10am
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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 7:26am | IP Logged | 10
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I wasn't terribly familiar with Maplethorpe's stuff until I saw a gallery book on him recently. If it makes you feel any better, Geoff, his stuff didn't do all that much for me, either.
Penises, penises, penises... I get it. And Georgia O'Keefe is obsessed with vaginas...
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 7:27am | IP Logged | 11
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Two 'p's in Mapplethorpe.
(There's a joke in there somewhere, I'm sure.)
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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 7:27am | IP Logged | 12
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Thank you, Al. Now, the bigger question: how do you know that?
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