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Matt Reed
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Posted: 10 June 2008 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | 1  

Jodi, I get why Geoff would take offense to your comments about "his party".  He's said, many times, that he votes the person and decidedly not the party.  He said that he regrets his vote in 2000, of which you continually lump him in with anyone who says they're a Republican as if he's supposed to be held accountable for GWB.  Finally, Geoff has been incredibly even-handed with regard to discussion on the issues, the candidates, and both parties in this entire thread. I would respectfully ask you and everyone not to divide absolutely everyone along party lines and/or assume you know where someone stands by their party affiliation alone.

Listen, I'm a die-hard Democrat with liberal leanings and I'll be the first to admit that I'd be throwing stones at glass houses if I put the blame entirely on GWB for the mess we're in.  Remember, Democrats as well as Republicans, for instance, voted to invade Iraq and I don't, for a minute, believe 99.9% of the backpedaling both parties have done on the issue.  Both the vote for and the recent backpedaling against the war were done for political reasons much more so than Democrats claims that they were "tricked" into believing Hussein had WMD. Yes, GWB and his cronies have a lot to be held accountable for during his awful term as president, but the Democrats certainly can't walk away with their hands clean.

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Matt:

Thanks.

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it was made possible because we had  republicans in all three branches of government

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The problems that this administration caused were enabled by this "us vs them" mentality.
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Jodi Moisan
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The problems that this administration caused were enabled by this "us vs them" mentality.

No it was because of greed.

How can being lied to by those in the white house not excuse democrats for voting the way they did concerning the Iraq invasion. Colin Powell fell for it.

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Why don't you just tell me to go fuck myself and be done with it?

Because that's not passive-aggressive enough for Jodi, Geoff.

Next up:  another cutie-pie picture, followed by, "Gosh golly gee willikers...I was all ready to be all nice and cuddwy, but you're just being a nasty ol' Mr. Meanie-Weanie."

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Jodi Moisan
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Well Todd, I wondered when you would come in and do a repeat performance with Geoff.

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Christopher Alan Miller
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Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 7  

Do I really have to dig up all the quotes from people in the Clinton Administration saying that Iraq had WMDs? Were they lying too?
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Todd Douglas
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Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | 8  

What, Jodi?  Couldn't find a picture fast enough?

[edit: clarity, as Christopher posted as I was posting]



Edited by Todd Douglas on 10 June 2008 at 4:07pm
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Jodi Moisan
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Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | 9  

Wait I know what you need to say Todd

"yeah what he said"

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Todd Douglas
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Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | 10  

Not really, because I don't necessarily agree with him this time around.

For someone who gets upset when someone "puts words in her mouth" (even if they're not), you're doing a bang-up job of doing just that.

Now...the cutie-pie picture, please.

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Brian Hunt
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That's a bit harsh Mr. Douglas.

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Todd Douglas
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Perhaps harsh, Brian...but I call 'em like I see 'em.
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