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Geoff Gibson
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I understand that John Kerry was for the clubbing of seals before he was against the clubbing of seals.
(Sorry it was too easy but he made fun of himself for that one on Imus sometime ago).
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Jodi Moisan
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Seals eat penguins. Everyone loves penguins (see March of the Penguins,
Happy Feet). Therefore the clubbing of baby seals is justified as a
preemptive strike to protect the penguins
That's pretty funny.
Geoff something I do think we can completely agree on is your new baby is pretty darn cute!
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 09 June 2008 at 1:05pm
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Geoff Gibson
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Thank you.
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Mike O'Brien
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I am the same party as my parents - and my grandparents and my great-grandparents...
I'm a 4th generation San Franciscan, Irish/Hispanic - I was fated to be a liberal. It's in my blood.
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Geoff Gibson
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I'm a 4th generation San Franciscan
Does your family go back to 1909 Earth Quake, Mike?
I'm third generation in the US -- my Great-Granparents came over from Ireland in teens.
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Donald Miller
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I support the sealing of clubs.
D-
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Jodi Moisan
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My husband is 3rd generation Irish and french canadian, my people are from Kansas :0( ..........................;0)
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 09 June 2008 at 1:58pm
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Mike O'Brien
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Yeah - 1906, though! These are relatives who were long gone before I came on the scene, but I hear stories about them!
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Kevin Hagerman
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My father's a Republican, my mother, to my eternal shame, votes for whoever my dad tells her to.
Re: Presidential adultery. You probably already know this, but men like to have sex, and rich/powerful/popular men get proportionally more opportunities to have multiple sex partners. The surprise isn't when they do - it's when Dennis Kucinich doesn't cheat on his hot-mama wife with some piece of fluff, throwing his career away in the process.
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Thom Price
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Are you the same party as your parents?
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My father's parents were very conservative; my mother's parents, very liberal. My parents took after their respective parents, but to a less extreme degree. Myself, I'm a muddle of both sides. I definitely lean liberal when it comes to social issues, but I'm not entirely unsympathetic to conservative beliefs when it comes to matters of the economy. Since I'll probably never find a candidate whose beliefs mesh entirely with my own, I can only base my preference on who well I respond to a candidate's persona and how effective I think they will be, even if I don't entirely agree with their agenda.
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Scott Richards
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And to me, doing cocaine is much, much lower on the morality chart than divorce.
Hmm... divorce is mentioned in the bible more than once as a sin. A few times, in the same list as homosexuality. Divorce was likely to get one ex-communicated from the church.
Nothing in Leviticus about cocaine use...
Falls under the treating your body as a temple thing.
Plus divorce is legal.
Should either really matter? Probably not. Just saying...
Edited by Scott Richards on 09 June 2008 at 3:10pm
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I won't put it past OTHERS to bring this up, but I'm hoping both McCain and Obama live up to their pledge to keep it clean.
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I admire your optimism, but I don't see that maintaining for long.
Unless something drastic shifts the status quo over the next few
months, this is going to be a very tight race. That will undoubtedly
lead to desperation on both sides. Even if Obama and McCain contrive
to stay above the fray, this election is probably going to be brutal.
Quite frankly, keeping their hands clean can have as much of a drawback
as not; when everyone is slinging mud and the candidate isn't
responding, it can come across as weak and docile. That's my biggest
obstacle to working up any enthusiasm for Obama -- he's so damn
passive. He seems unable or unwilling to take action until he's
absolutely forced to.
As to whether this election is going to sink to "dirty politics" and
"mud slinging" -- well, I think some people have a far too broad
definition of what constitutes either. Certain Obama supporters become
indignant over any criticism or questioning of their candidate,
although I've never understood why he deserved to be sacrosanct. More
often than not, these "irrelevant" issues become relevant because of
how politicians present themselves. If a politician is going to
present himself as a beacon of family values and morality, then
questions of why he treated his first wife so shabbily are valid.
Likewise, if a politician is going to present himself as a great
unifier, then questions about why he was for so long associated with a
person and organization with such divisive elements is also valid. Neither deserves to be the center of attention, but efforts to squelch the questions or concerns is equally out of place.
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