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Jason Czeskleba
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Christopher, my point was that it's arguable Clinton is eligible to be President, just not to be elected President. Therefore he is also eligible to be Vice President. The 12th Amendment just says that if you're not eligible to be President you can't be Vice President.
Neil, the 22nd Amendment (Presidential term limits) was ratified in 1951. It was in response to Franklin Roosevelt. Prior to FDR, the unwritten tradition had been that no one served more than two terms as President. FDR was the first person to win a third term, and then an unprecedented fourth term. The amendment was passed by a Republican Congress which was unhappy with FDR specifically, but I think also was concerned about setting limits on Federal power.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 10 March 2008 at 10:21pm
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Christopher Alan Miller
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Washington was the first President and he willingly gave up power after two terms. Most men probably wouldn't do that and he was highly respected for it.
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Keith Elder
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Today, we take our freedom so much for granted and accept
democracy as so natural, so right, that it is hard to imagine the importance
of Washington's voluntary retirement. But in 1783, it was an earth-shattering
event. The highly skeptical King George III, perhaps confident that Washington's
retirement was some sort of scheme, predicted that if the commander-in-chief
gives up all his power and returns to his farm, he will be the "greatest
man in the world." For once, George III was right. Just a few years later,
when Napoleon lay on his deathbed, defeated and forlorn, among his last
words were, "They expected me to be another Washington."
Washington is my favorite president, by far. His voluntary and deliberate restraint of power shaped this nation for centuries. He gave our nation character.
AAAARGH. And we have to pick from McCain, Obama, and Clinton!!! AAAARGH.
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Teod Tomlinson
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I am pulling for Obama. I think taking the country in 180 degrees from the mess we have now is a good move. Would he make a great president? Not really sure. I am more than ready to see a different direction with the leadership of our country. I am skeptical that Obama could beat McCain. Is the country ready to embrace hope or continue to be manipulated by fear? I know that sounds cheesy, however in my mind this is what is at stake with next election. Following a failed path that is not working or take the country in a different direction.
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Bob Neill
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Just to touch on 'Why hasn't an ex-President ever been asked to be running mate' question, the closest it ever came to happening was in 1980, when Reagan seriously considered picking Gerald Ford.
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William McCormick
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I just can't imagine that anyone would want Clinton as President. Eight years of the prior nonsense was enough.
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Yeah, God forbid we should have a balanced budget, a decent economy and good relationships with the rest of the world.
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Bob Simko
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I think Clinton gets a little too much credit for the booming dot-com economy he landed in.
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Andrew Hess
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Bob -
That he landed in? The booming dot-com economy started circa 1992? I
wasn't aware of that.
I could have sworn the computer-based economy didn't really boom until
the late 90s. Well in to Clinton's presidency.
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Kevin Brown
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Yeah, God forbid we should have a balanced budget, a decent economy and good relationships with the rest of the world.
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Which BILL Clinton did, not Hillary. Being married to him does not give her the same intelligence, qualities, or abilities.
Look at it this way, if I'm going into surgery, I don't want the wife of the surgeon to perform the surgery.... No matter how long she's been married to him.
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Kevin Brown
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I think Clinton gets a little too much credit for the booming dot-com economy he landed in.
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Bob -
That he landed in? The booming dot-com economy started circa 1992? I
wasn't aware of that.
I could have sworn the computer-based economy didn't really boom until
the late 90s. Well in to Clinton's presidency.
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Mid-90's to about 2003 or so.
Not sure how much Clinton's Presidency had to do with it though. I would say it was just "luck of the draw".
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Bob Simko
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Kevin hit on where I was going. Apologies on the confusion.
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Todd Douglas
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QUOTE:
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And if, just for the sake of argument, they're both surgeons, and it's widely known (or at least assumed) that she's consulted on many of his patients in the past?
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