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Lance Hill
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Or the Iron-Spider will become the next big Spider-Man villain (like Venom did).
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Hey, the four Slingers were good guys, so he's still ahead!
EDIT: Damnit, they were cool, guys.
Edited by Lance Hill on 02 February 2006 at 4:27pm
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Michael Roberts
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It was Slingers.
http://slingers1.tripod.com/
And the Prodigy costume still wins as ugliest Spider-Man costume in my pageant.
Thinking about, there's nothing being done with this "Iron Spider" costume that hasn't been done before. I think if fans were happy with the direction Spider-Man has been going, this would just warrant a shrug. The problem is that this is coming off the heels of Sins Past, "The Other", and Spider-Man joining the New Avengers.
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Mike Bunge
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"Maybe a normal person would if they read the accompanying text that will appear on the page of the finished product."
When you're working in a visual medium, the image and the text shouldn't be working against each other. If Iron-Spider is supposed to be gliding, it should look like he's gliding.
Mike
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Mike Bunge
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"I think if fans were happy with the direction Spider-Man has been going, this would just warrant a shrug. The problem is that this is coming off the heels of Sins Past, "The Other", and Spider-Man joining the New Avengers."
*Ding! Ding! Ding!* We have a correct answer! Tell the man what he's won, Don Pardo!
Mike
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Moyer Hall
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Slingers! Thats it...couldn't remember the right title name.
So lets see, we've had a clone of Spider-Man (Ben Reily), a female
imposter - briefly (JB's Spider-Woman), and now an "Iron-Spider"...
I smell a "Reign Of The Spider-Men" coming up!
All we need is a Cyborg-Spider-Man. Or has that been done yet?
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Michael Roberts
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Moyer Hall
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Damn..forgot that one...funny!!!
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Rob Hewitt
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"I think if fans were happy with the direction Spider-Man has been going, this would just warrant a shrug. The problem is that this is coming off the heels of Sins Past, "The Other", and Spider-Man joining the New Avengers."
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Well, New Avengers is a smash hit and THE Other has boosted sales. So, I can't say fans are necessarily happy with the Other just cause they bought it, but they started buying Spider-man more. And they seem to like New Avengers. You aren't happy, I may not be happy, but many fans, probably most, seem to be with some of that.
Ok, Sins Past was a dud ultimately.
Edited by Rob Hewitt on 02 February 2006 at 5:06pm
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Andrew W. Farago
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Okay, how long ago was the Captain Universe
story?
Back in 1989, I think. One of the weird things about
the comic-buying public today is that most of us
seem to have read just about every Marvel & DC
book published in the last 25 years, which seems to
make everyone increasingly more jaded about this
stuff. Most of us can rattle off a long list of
"permanent" changes to Spider-Man that have
happened and been completely undone while we've
been fans of the character, and forget that stuff like,
the Clone Saga, for example, happened about 10
years ago.
The saddest part about that:
When I was looking up some sales figures the other
day THAT was on one of the list. It sold over 110,000
copies for the first issue. WTF?!? THAT WAS AFTER
THE SPECULATOR CRASH!!!
Slingers had four (or five?) covers, one for each team
member, with certain story pages exclusive to each
edition. Combine that with the momentum that the
Spider-Man relaunch had at the time (along with the
momentum of projects like the "Heroes Return"
books and Marvel Knights) and the popularity of the
"Identity Crisis" story that launched Slingers, and
there are just enough quirky factors going into it that
it had a really successful first issue. Sales dropped
pretty quickly after that, though, and I think the book
lasted just over a year.
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Joe Mayer
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When you're working in a visual medium, the image and the text shouldn't be working against each other. If Iron-Spider is supposed to be gliding, it should look like he's gliding.
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Exactly what is on that page that does not look like gliding?
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Joe Mayer
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Okay, how long ago was the Captain Universe
story?
Back in 1989, I think. One of the weird things about
the comic-buying public today is that most of us
seem to have read just about every Marvel & DC
book published in the last 25 years, which seems to
make everyone increasingly more jaded about this
stuff. Most of us can rattle off a long list of
"permanent" changes to Spider-Man that have
happened and been completely undone while we've
been fans of the character, and forget that stuff like,
the Clone Saga, for example, happened about 10
years ago.
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That does go along with what JB was saying about the aging fan boy mentality. But, having managed a friend's shop for a couple of years, I can tell you that the majority of my customers either weren't alive in 1989 to being barely able to read. Sure, there were many that were older, but then I hung on so why not others.
What is seems like is that the longer one hangs on to comic books the more vocal they want to complain. Maybe at some point, if comics make someone so unhappy, they should let them go and allow the younger generation to have them.
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Andrew W. Farago
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Does he believe the crap he's spewing? It goes
from an accidental radioactive spider bite to a
Spider-God who has created many Spider-Men and
Peter Parker being fated to be one of them. Yeah.
Right. That's not fundamental and I'll bet you dollars
to donuts that this is yet another change that
becomes status quo.
I'll see your dollar and raise you a couple of bear
claws on that one.
The Spider-Totem thing won't stick past Straczynski's
run on the book, since he seems to be the only
person around who's interested in it in any way,
shape or form. It's too goofy, too convoluted, and it's
not in the movies or cartoons, and it'll be quietly
shoved off to the side once Straczynski leaves (which
might not be for another 20 years, but he's got to get
bored with Spider-Man eventually).
Spider bites kid, kid gets powers, kid screws up, kid
vows to use powers responsibly. That'll always be at
the core of Spider-Man, and the totem stuff, like any
number of stories before it, can be undone in a
panel or two somewhere down the line. Every other
writer completely ignored the totem stuff until they
*had to* address it in "The Other," so I don't imagine
anyone else is very fond of it.
As for the marriage, at this point, Spider-Man's been
a married character almost as long as he wasn't,
and with the increased number of titles he's had in
the past 20 years, there may even be more "happily
married Spider-Man" stories in print than "I've got
dating problems" stories. There seem to be more
fans of the marriage than detractors, and, as I've
said before, the marriage is way, way down on the
list of things that need to be fixed or changed to
make Spider-Man a "can't miss" book again.
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