And the Claremont-Smith (to use a somewhat more recent example) also has Simonson and Romita Jr in them and they both draw particularly important issues: Rogue's intro to the team and Scott's 1st wedding!

Also, I am not sure that the Marvel Limited Series were failures. I would think the opposite.

And the Claremont-Smith (to use a somewhat more recent example) also has Simonson and Romita Jr in them and they both draw particularly important issues: Rogue's intro to the team and Scott's 1st wedding

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I don't think you can count JRjr's presence as a fill-in. He drew, what, the last 6 pages of a book Smith drew the rest of. Not a fill-in issue at all. He may have been asked to draw them because Smith was too slow, but it's still not a fill-in issue. If the regular artist draws the majority of the pages in the book, it can't be a fill-in issue.

Also, I am not sure that the Marvel Limited Series were failures. I would think the opposite

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Failures in what? I'm not seeing where you're coming from, Thanos.

However -- to embrace the YEAR ONE notion of a corrupt police force making Batman "justifiable" is to miss the previous 50ish years of the character. Batman does not operate outside or against the police force. He operates with them, but in a world where there are menaces that are beyond the scope of standard police proceedures. Batman is Gotham's one-man "Impossible Missions Squad". He's the one the cops call to for help when things get out of their league.

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For much of Batman's history, yes, but didn't he start out as an outlaw?  I seem to recall a policeman shouting "It's the Bat-Man!  Get him!" and pointing a gun at our hero in Detective #27.

Think of Camelot 3000 and how great that was...

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Weren't issues of this extremely late?

So, my question to Eric comes back to the whole "lateness" issue, it would seem. Is CAMELOT 3000 better than SQUADRON SUPREME due to the fact that it was late but had Bolland on it and SS was on time but with different artists?

( Secret Wars had a couple of fill-in issues, as well).

Eric Kleefeld wrote: Not just average art, but inconsistent art. How many classic stories of American comics kept switching art teams?

Eric Lund wrote: IF the Squadron Supreme had an artist of that calibur it would be right up there....It didn't so it isn't

Paul Go wrote: Yeah, I agree with many here that the inconsistancy of the art in Squadron Supreme killed it.

I cannot believe I am seeing people trashing on Squadron Supreme.  What, are you guys thumbing your nose at Paul Ryan?  Geezum Crow, You guys are going to get me all fired up.  Squadron Supreme is a fully executed story that had never been told before.  It never mocks the genre like Watchmen does.  I'd rather read any story by Gruenwald, and this was one of his best.  I'm Speechless!