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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | 1  

" While I might understand the practical viewpoint - one must keep to one's deadlines, it's a job, after all - still a very callous, coldhearted and truly nasty thing to say. "

I think excusing someone for not meeting their job because of his pregnant girlfriend's problems demeans what she is going through. As much as we would like to think of pregnancy as a partnership, it is the female who is taking on the greatest challenge, the life and death risks. The very least the male can do is make sure food is on the table ( and in the case of a freelance artist, would not be doing by failing deadlines. )


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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | 2  

Joe, allow me to speak from personal experience (with our last child, my wife was in labor for a month): there are trips to the hospital, at any time of day or night, the emotional drain of knowing the dangers of having a child 6 weeks early, and then, after the birth, if the child arrives early, there is the heartbreak of going to the NICU (NeoNatal Intensive Care Unit) every day. Sometimes a parent will even move into the hospital to stay with the baby. There are the infant CPR classes, the the heart monitors, etc.
It's more than just having "the man" put food on the table.
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | 3  

OK, a month, two months. Did it affect your work for two years? 
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | 4  

Well, I actually merged my last 2 children into 1 example. My daughter was born 6 weeks early (my youngest son, 4 weeks). She was the child who spent a few weeks in the NICU. We were VERY lucky in that regard. There were children in there a long time before we were there, & were still in there a long time after we left. So, in my case, not so much of an effect. But there are always extreme circumstances, and I cannot speak to Hitch's situation (hell, I don't even know anything about him OR his work!) but there were parents from Ohio who were visiting Gettysburg, when she went into labor at 20 weeks (that's HALFWAY through a pregnancy). They had to temporarily move from Ohio to York.
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Charlie Lang
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 10:22pm | IP Logged | 5  

Hey Joe. How many kids do you have?

If it's zero, as I suspect, now might be a good time to shut your ignorant mouth up.

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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 10:58pm | IP Logged | 6  

Personally, I don't care why.  If the presses or distribution center were in New Orleans, I'd cut slack, but if it's late, I just lose interest.

Astonishing X-Men is the best X-Men book in decades...it ships late, I've lost interest because it's late so I dropped it.  Brubaker's Captain America has been brilliant, but there were issues that shipped late and I lost interest.  Comics are serial fiction, intended to be put out monthly...if that doesn't happen, I'm really not of the mind to care.  My part of the deal is that you (the publisher) keep me entertained on a month to month basis, and I'll support you.  You drop the ball, my interests drift elsewhere.

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Mikael Bergkvist
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | 7  

If I could make a living out of comics, I would do nothing else, so I would never be late.
I can't understand why people who actually got a job doing comics would ever spend time on other, irrelevant stuff. (And no, I'm not being funny...)

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Steve Horton
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 12:04am | IP Logged | 8  

Question: Are modern freelancers allowed to subcontract or "farm" out part of their work, such as backgrounds? Does it have to be ghosted, with no credit and no awareness from the editor? If the editor knows about it, must a credit appear in the book and must the company split the page rate up themselves, or can the freelancer do it?

Just a solution to a problem that might help freelancers, though I understand many of them struggle to put food on the table as is (but think about how much more you'd make overall with an on-time book!)

 

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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 2:17am | IP Logged | 9  

 Wes Wescovich wrote:
Alright, since you all are so concerned about your favorite artist's girl-friend's health issues.


1) Hitch is far from my favourite artist, last work of his I picked up was the very first Ultimates trade years ago.  Wasn't my thing so I haven't bought anything he's worked on since.

2) The attitude of certain folks around here to the problems Hitch and his significant other went through is terribly creepy.
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 2:55am | IP Logged | 10  

 Wes Wescovich wrote:
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I remember when there was a Superboy and the Legion issue that came out in the late 70's featuring a gorgeous Starlin cover and I was surprised to find a Swan reprint inside.  There was an editorial from Al Milgrom on the inside cover apologizing for the fact that he had just taken over the editing chores and the first issue under his reign was a reprint due to a schedule problem.  THAT was a professional response to the problem.

But if that was done today it would either have been solicitated as a reprint issue = few people order it,
or changed into a reprint issue when the solicitations said otherwise = retailers could send it back.



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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 3:03am | IP Logged | 11  

Ripping off customers was considered professional even way back then!
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Ian Evans
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 3:28am | IP Logged | 12  

JB said he has every sympathy for Brian Hitch if his girlfriends pregnancy problems caused him to miss a deadline.

He said that working well in advance of deadlines would mean that this problem, awful though it is, would not impact upon his meeting of his deadlines.  I take it by that that he is certainly not saying that meeting this deadline was more important than Mr Hitch's girlfriend's pregnancy problems.

That said, I can see how some of the other comments on this thread might come across as callous.  A little thought before posting might be in order.

 

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