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Joe Zhang
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What I don't agree with that article is the writer's blanket
condemnation of superheroes. It's not the genre which is broken - look
at the legions of kids lining up at the theatre for Spider-Man or the
FF. What's wrong is the fanboy turned writers and editors producing
stories unpalatable to anyone but their own inbred circles.
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Chad Carter
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"What's wrong is the fanboy turned writers and editors producing stories unpalatable to anyone but their own inbred circles. "
Speak the words, Man of Zhang.
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Joe Zhang
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Heh.
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Francis Grey
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You amuse me, flesh slugs.
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Dave Farabee
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QUOTE:
| Clearly that was one of the peak periods in the history of the industry as we know it. |
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Only beef I've got with that period (1970) on a creative level is that there wasn't anything produced explicitely for adults (well, maybe EERIE, but just barely.) There were titles that adults might enjoy, yes, but nothing made specifically for 'em.
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Steve Lieber
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" There were titles that adults might enjoy, yes, but nothing made specifically for 'em."
Not by traditional comics publishers, but the undergrounds were in full
flower. Many of these artists were just pushing buttons because they
could, but some, like R. Crumb, Spain Rodriguez, Gilbert Shelton, Kim
Deitch, Jack Jackson and Frank Stack, were doing work that mature
adults could and still do enjoy.
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Steve Horton
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Picked up the American Splendor collection the other day, because I liked the film and had vaguely heard of Harvey Pekar before that. Loved it! I want the other volumes.
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Steve Jones
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With my selfish hat, let me ask a question. Why should I care whether Marvel or DC get their "act together" and expand their market out beyond the ghetto? I am quite happy living in the ghetto of superhero comics and comic book shops, it does me just fine.
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Pedro Bouça
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Eric wrote:
| If the domestic industry wants to come back, sell a better product. |
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Now you've said everything, man!
Two good examples: When manga (and US comics) reached Spain in quantity, they pretty much destroyed the local production (usually centered in B&W crime comics with though, amoral protagonists, some are great, but I think they lacked variety), but there are far more manga published in France and french comics still outsell them 10 to 1.
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Rob Queen
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Steve Jones wrote:
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Why should I care whether Marvel or DC get their "act together" and expand their market out beyond the ghetto? I am quite happy living in the ghetto of superhero comics and comic book shops, it does me just fine. |
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Because the population of said ghetto is shrinking, and if DC & M*rv*l do not get their act together and restore the mass market appeal AND availability of comics in places OTHER than the ghetto, there won't be enough revenue generating from the ghetto to keep the industry afloat.
At least, that's my theory.
~~Rob~~
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Steve Lieber
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Steve: I liked the film a lot, too, but they did one thing that really
pissed me off: They mashed together two different people: Frank Stack,
(the guy who drew "Our Cancer Year") and whoever it was who gave up his
child for Joyce and Harvey to adopt, with the result being that Stack,
an upstanding, responsible guy and a college professor, is depicted as
a confused biker loser who just sort of hands off his kid to some
people he barely knows. They even had the loser guy showing pages of
Stack's work!
(I know this was off topic, but if you can't gripe about an inaccurate
comic book movie adaptation on the Byrne board, where can you do it?)
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Steve Horton
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Steve: Man, I didn't know that! Wonder how the real Frank Stack felt about that.
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