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Fabrice Renault
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"Or maybe some other french member over here ? "
On my end, I can do the same concerning Manga in Japan.
F.
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Steve Horton
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I'd also like to see how comics are displayed and formatted in other countries. Especially all those Panini graphic novels that collect stuff that we don't!
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Chad Carter
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Apparently Gundam started in 1979. Shogun Warriors came out in 1979. Which came first?
Answer: Jet Jaguar. 1973.
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Mary Ives
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<How about a few "hilarious" and "snort" or something that takes a
second to spell? It's reaching "been there done that" and "KFC" status
of annoying human catch-phrase/abreviations>
hehe, I'm rather fond of *snork* myself. Which is the
approximation of the sound of me snorting iced tea through my nose at
something incredibly funny and unexpected.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Chad Carter wrote:
| ]Apparently Gundam started in 1979. Shogun Warriors came out in 1979. Which came first?
Answer: Jet Jaguar. 1973. |
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Mazinger Z. 1972.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Eric Kleefeld wrote:
]I don't think it's a fad because it's steadily grown over the years in a way
atypical of fads, which tend to boom and bust. 15 years ago, translated
manga was just available in specialty shops as a niche item. Then 10 years
ago I started spotting it in bookstores. Over the last ten years those shelves
of manga have steadily grown and their appeal steadily widened.
Like any other market, I expect it to fluctuate up and down over the coming
years, but I think it's firmly established and is here to stay. |
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Correct. Here in Italy manga began to be published regularly in 1991/92.
In the beginning they were only a few publications, but now we have in newsstands and comic shops... 90 series or so. Yes, here someone thought that it was only a brief fashion, but the reality became soon different.
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Pedro Bouça
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Username wrote:
| I did not know that Ikaru had been published in America. Is this recent? |
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Not too recent. It was published a year or so ago.
I have the first issue on italian, but I intend to buy the french edition anyway. It was written by Moebius, after all!
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Pedro Bouça
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Username wrote:
Correct. Here in Italy manga began to be published regularly in 1991/92.
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the beginning they were only a few publications, but now we have in
newsstands and comic shops... 90 series or so. Yes, here someone
thought that it was only a brief fashion, but the reality became soon
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Same in France. Brazil got a later start (by 2000 or so), but manga has
already a strong presence in brazilian newsstands and bookstores.
Here in Portugal there aren't manga (besides imports) yet. At all! So
anyone who wants to live in a country free from the jap comics invasion
can just move here...
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Francis Grey
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Trevor Giberson wrote:
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Here's what came out coverdate May, 1970 (the month of my birth, more or less). There's at least a dozen more non-super-hero books that month, too:
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I consider Trevor Giberson's post from page 2 of this thread to be pretty definitive. Comics is a visual medium. There's the answer to the question posed in this thread. It's unimaginable that the industry today could support such a diversity and breadth of material. Clearly that was one of the peak periods in the history of the industry as we know it.
All you have to do is look through those covers to realize that back then, there were comics of all sorts, geared to appeal to a range of diverse interests. What we have today is (largely) a monoculture of superheroes.
Thanks, Trevor, for providing that reminder.
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Steve Horton
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An essay from Dirk Deppey of THE COMICS JOURNAL:
http://www.tcj.com/269/e_own1.html
As much as I hate to say it, I agree with him! First time for everything.
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Joe Zhang
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TCJ : "the titans of American comics have thus essentially ceded the game to the Asian invaders without a fight."
That's exactly what I'm saying. I must be some kind of mad genius.
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Eric Kleefeld
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When a domestic industry does a terrible job, it is only right and proper for
foreign producers to come in and sell products in that market that are
deemed to be of finer quality by the consumers.
If the domestic industry wants to come back, sell a better product.
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