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Posted: 23 August 2025 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I was reading over some Google entries on the status of mutants at Marvel these days(the pain… the pain) and I found myself quickly realizing the single word that encompasses most of what’s gone wrong: AND.

So many descriptions of mutants contain “and”. So-and-so’s mutant powers are blah AND blah. Long way from Stan’s description of AN extra power.

Not sure how far back this goes. The originals—Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Angel, Iceman—fit Stan’s bill. Later Jean would add telepathy to her telekinesis, but that was explained as something given to her by Xavier. (The Mimic had multiple powers, but they were manifestations of his single ability.)

The first time it might be said to seriously fall apart was Nightcrawler, who was not originally conceived as a mutant. He was blue and furry with glowing eyes and fangs, AND he had malformed hands and feet, AND could cling to any surface, AND had a prehensile tail, AND (the big one) could teleport. Invisiblity in shadow was added later.

Taking it all in, my advice to anyone creating mutants is AVOID “AND”. If your character can’t be described in a single clause, rethink.

And spare me the lazy writing of “secondary mutations”.

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Posted: 23 August 2025 at 3:27pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

“secondary mutations”

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This is where I really started losing interest. If you want to tell a Stupendo
story but he has to have powers he never had before, maybe it shouldn’t be
a Stupendo story. Maybe create another character with those powers and
have them join Stupendo.
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Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I’m reminded of when another writer took on a character I had created. Backstory changed. Powers changed. Only the name remained.

Why?

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Posted: 23 August 2025 at 6:01pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Obviously you didn’t create the character correctly.
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Posted: 23 August 2025 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I hate secondary mutation.
If you wanted to write a character with that power, CREATE them. Don’t ruin
an existing one, especially when that new power seems to come with a
personality change.
Grant Morrison’s run had some interesting story concepts. But what he did
to the characters was unforgivable, and seems to have become the
template for most stories since.

What happened with Hickman and since I have no idea about. The
descriptions of overall status, the size of character list I just could not
follow.
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