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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 May 2025 at 5:51am | IP Logged | 1
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Adam Hughes wrote and illustrated a fantastic BETTY & VERONICA mini-series a few years ago. If you haven't seen it, I heartily recommend tracking it down! That's another "Why Did This Never Happen?"--why hasn't Adam Hughes written & illustrated any further specials?!
Edited by Eric Jansen on 23 May 2025 at 5:59am
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 May 2025 at 5:54am | IP Logged | 2
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Regarding Steve Ditko on DAREDEVIL, that was very weird to me at the time and now I love that it happened! And I was happy that he revisited HULK too! He's one that I really wish had a stint on many more titles than he did. ANT-MAN comes to mind, and then I think about THE ATOM--somehow his style seems to fit "little people." At least he worked on MICRONAUTS a bit!
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 May 2025 at 5:57am | IP Logged | 3
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How did the "King of Cosmic" Jim Starlin never have a writing/drawing stint on GREEN LANTERN?!? Three or so covers way back when gave just a taste of what could have been.
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 May 2025 at 7:20am | IP Logged | 4
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Starlin penciled a Superman/Green Lantern team-up in DC COMICS PRESENTS No. 26, I believe. Marv Wolfman scripted it. The story kinda gets overshadowed by being in the same comic that contained the NEW TEEN TITANS preview insert.
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 4:57am | IP Logged | 5
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Yeah, that was a great short run by Jim Starlin, but with some less than great inker choices. Am I wrong or did DC always make bad decisions with inkers? Marvel was truly blessed with over a dozen magnificent inkers over a long period of time and thus magnificent penciler-inker teams but DC had Frank McLaughlin on Irv Novick and Dick Dillin and of course Dick Giordano on Neal Adams--and that's pretty much it. (Terry Austin and Klaus Janson may have started there but then did their long-running best work at Marvel.)
And Image Comics should have pretty much just rolled wheelbarrows full of gold up to Scott Williams during its heyday (and Jim Lee still should).
Why did DC never put much thought into inker recruitment?
Edited by Eric Jansen on 26 May 2025 at 4:58am
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 5:22am | IP Logged | 6
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Why did we never get a third big super-hero universe/company?
Image tried, but fell apart. Dark Horse tried, but seemed to put all its eggs in one fairly unpleasant basket. Companies like Crossgen, Continuity, Charlton, Valiant, Malibu, and a number of smaller publishers all gave it a good go and died for one reason or another. But it's just strange to me that in this era of multi-billion dollar movie franchises based on super-hero comic books that some movie studio or multi-millionaire tycoon looking to become a billionaire hasn't funded a good ten-series interconnected super-hero universe, perhaps recruiting some classic writers and artists to get them going.
Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and Steve Ditko are all sadly gone, but Jim Starlin and David Michelinie (you know, the guy whose work has been adapted in three ANT-MAN movies, two AQUAMAN movies, three VENOM movies, not to mention IRON MAN on which the entire MCU was founded) are still around. Steve Englehart, Roy Thomas, Don McGregor, John Byrne, Frank Miller, Walt Simonson, and some other greats also seem like guys who deserve a knock on the door from someone wanting to make a billion dollars.
Edited by Eric Jansen on 26 May 2025 at 5:24am
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Robert Bradley Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 6:28am | IP Logged | 7
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Gil Kane on the Avengers.
Sure, he did plenty of covers (there and everywhere else in the 70s), and although we got to see him handle characters like the Hulk, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man, the Inhumans, Conan, John Carter, Captain America and Adam Warlock, but he never got a run on the Avengers, which would seem to have been a perfect fit.
And Ron Frenz in a lot of places. He's got that 1960s/70s storytelling down to a tee. He's be terrific on a Silver Surfer series. Or Fantastic Four. Or just about anything you'd want to have a classic feel.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 11:18am | IP Logged | 8
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Gil never really did any team books, did he?
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 9
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I think this is a bit harsh. Murphy Anderson and Karl Kesel come to mind. I also enjoyed the team of Steve Mitchell's inks over Norm Breyfogle's pencils on Batman in the late 80s/early 90s.
In terms of recruitment, it was DC that brought Rudy Nebres, Gerry Talaoc and Romeo Tanghal to American comics.
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John Popa Byrne Robotics Member

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Why did we never get a third big super-hero universe/company?--
I think the list of failed attempts answers that quesrtion -there's not an insatiable need for another super hero universe. Things like 'Invincible' and 'The Boys' have worked because they have one specific thing on their mind (and even 'Invincible' has struggled when they tried to expand into a 'universe' of titles.)
For non comic fans, I think there are plenty of super heroes. Who out there wishes there were 10 more that didn't have anything to do with the ones they already like?
I've always wanted an Alan Davis Inhumans story. I chatted with him at a con recently and he said he'd love to do one - so why hasn't it happened??
Edited by John Popa on 26 May 2025 at 3:46pm
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | 11
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"there's not an insatiable need for another super hero universe"
I disagree. I remember in the 90's when I had drifted away from both Marvel and DC, and then Image started. I would still go to the comic shops sometimes and buy a few independents, and I remember the building excitement as Image's debut approached. The flagship titles by the big artists exploded and it the start of a brand new in the industry. Then they produced watered down side series with carbon copy artists and no great writers (until Alan Moore showed up) and then egos got in the way--but a third company was there and successful and it got a lot of people like back into buying an entire universe again.
I see no reason that couldn't happen again. But maybe not with the ingredients for fracturing in place.
(Malibu was also big for a while, until Marvel bought them and shut them down.)
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 26 May 2025 at 10:10pm | IP Logged | 12
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Now that Gil Kane was mentioned, it IS surprising that he never had an extended run on any team book! He would have been great on AVENGERS, JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA, TEEN TITANS (old team or new), and more!
I would have liked to see him on HAWKMAN and IRON MAN too--he would have brought power to Hawkman and his Tony Stark would have been classic.
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