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John Byrne
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| Posted: 06 January 2025 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 1
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So what happens to Department H?
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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 06 January 2025 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | 2
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I truly thought he was going to hang on and eat the
inevitable loss rather than let a successor wear it, but I
guess the chatter just got too loud.
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Peter Hicks
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| Posted: 06 January 2025 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | 3
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Trevor - I thought that too for a while, but some polling was done that show the Liberals having a less disastrous outcome with a new leader. Having a new leader might allow them to at least finish in second place. Maybe even limit the Conservatives to a minority government if they get lucky.
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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 06 January 2025 at 8:02pm | IP Logged | 4
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"Maybe even limit the Conservatives to a minority
government if they get lucky."
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Oh man, we can only hope.
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Neil Lindholm
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| Posted: 07 January 2025 at 12:42am | IP Logged | 5
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The system is not letting me post an image, so I will just type it out myself.
172 seats for a majority
Projected seat count Conservative - 236 (208-255) Bloc - 45 (38-51) Liberal - 35 (19-54) NDP - 25 (15-42) Green - 2 (0-3)
I am still surprised the Liberals could muster up an average of 35 potential seats. Virtually everything the Liberals have done the past nine years has been an abject failure and it will take years for Canada to rid itself of their destructive ideology. Luckily, the tide is turning, not just in Canada but in the rest of the western world.
Edited by Neil Lindholm on 07 January 2025 at 12:43am
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 07 January 2025 at 7:37am | IP Logged | 6
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Some really concerning shifts are being seen in the world.
For whatever reasons, people such as Trump, Musk, Farage, a whole host of
Eastern Europe, & Western Europe leaders for that matter are being able to
tap into frustrations of people on a whole host of topics.
Some of those people being appealed to are knuckle draggers, but it’s not
just them. It’s cutting across demographics.
Appeals are being made to that age old issue ‘Not one of us’. & just as
before, it’s starting to work.
We have forgotten or simply do not appreciate, where this thinking leads.
& it’s so easy to exploit.
Just thinking about some of the topics we have going on @ the moment - I
am worried about sexual exploitation of girls, I am worried about Sharia law,
I am worried about having the call to prayer blasted from vans travelling
around town.
But I’m also worried about social media dictating narrative, algorithms
exposing young people to clips about sex & violence that are skewing their
thinking, the rise of the misogynistic ‘Alpha’ males such as Andrew Tate,
that there are 3000 people in the UK who pay 25% of the total tax take &
thus are too powerful, that Musk has more wealth than countries & exploits
his platform to interfere in narratives, that Trump has so far indicated that
he wants to take over @ least three countries, that Musk is pushing a
narrative of ‘Let’s overthrow the UK government’ (which, to be honest, is
far, far more dangerous than anything else @ this precise moment in time).
So right now, if someone said who is the biggest threat in my eyes?
Musk. I can only hope that his descent into madness gets realised & he gets
sorted out.
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Dave Kopperman
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| Posted: 07 January 2025 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | 7
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Yeah, Musk's German op-ed was extremely concerning - it called for a change in leadership to help, among other things, preserve Germany's "cultural integrity".
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 07 January 2025 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | 8
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It's whisker away from a message of white supremacy and although it's been met with some opprobrium, it hasn't received the kind of outrage that it should have. 20 or 30 years ago, such a message would make someone a complete pariah on the world stage.
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Dave Kopperman
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| Posted: 07 January 2025 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | 9
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It's not even a whisker. It tries to take on that coy dog whisper approach that the alt-right pioneered but at this point, everyone knows exactly what it means. I guess because he isn't linking to Day of the Saints or something he's still got plausible deniability, but as most Western governments are now heading in that nationalistic, right-wing direction and the racist stuff has proven to be a winning message for them over the last few cycles. As the richest man on Earth* and one who is fully aligned with this political moment, Musk feels untouchable, and most likely is, for the time being.
*I've seen stuff that says Putin is the wealthiest by far, and I'm inclined to lend it credence. But Putin's operational strategy isn't as in your face about money as Musk's.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 08 January 2025 at 12:05am | IP Logged | 10
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He’s really going for it with the Greenland & Canada tonight isn’t he.
There is a real hint of ‘Sell it us or we will take it by force’ with regards to
Greenland, similar to the Panama Canal.
& as for this Gulf of America crap.
Insane. I truly believe the man is insane.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 08 January 2025 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 11
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I didn’t realise he refused to rule out military actions.
Greenland is part of NATO
I’m beginning to believe my wife’s view that he’s trying to get NATO to
throw him out.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 08 January 2025 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | 12
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NATO is Eisenhower's great legacy -- a legacy of a global postwar peace that held in spite of decades of Cold War tensions. If NATO gets torn apart by an American president, it is truly a tragedy.
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