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Yes, he had gains, but Kamala still won 80% of the black vote. What sucks is that Biden got 90% in 2020.  And he pretty much held steady at around 45% for Latino voters nationwide.

But nothing is going to change until President Trump passes away - and that doesn't automatically mean things will improve, either.  It might simply be the end of the beginning of the end.

Agree.

The best post-mortem take (and there's a million of them) I read on the subject was an op-ed piece from the NYT that talked about the "Resistance" position the Dems took as default.

"Resistance" can work for a while, and of course you should resist a Trump government and all that implies. But that can't be your sole overall position.

Because it eventually turns you into a conservative. 

The whole approach in this era is trying to salvage all the stuff this guy intends to destroy, and people aren't responding to that.

They want change, whatever it is. You should propose equally disruptive change but from the other side to match it.

And that's obviously not what the Dems tried to sell. 

With Bernie four years ago, that would've been a different story but they didn't let that happen.

Mmm.

No one knows what's gonna happen, and even less with such a mentally unbalanced character as Trump.

But, with Musk and Thiel and their ilk working directly with him and manipulating this very easy guy to manipulate this time it could be really different in a much worse way.

I said it before the election and I'm going to say it again now

You vote for Harris and for Democrats at every level or you give Nazis power.

If you stay home because you think "both sides" are just as bad, you give Nazis power.

If you don't want to be bothered with politics at all, you give Nazis power.

But you'd best be sure about this, because when you give Nazis power, there's no changing your mind.  You don't get that power back, not without great cost.  Ask Germany.  Ask Japan.  Ask Italy.

And now we've given Nazis power.  I have no idea if they are going to be able to accomplish everything they want to accomplish, but we no longer have a say in the matter.  It's purely up to them and you can bet they'll do everything they can, and even a few things they can't, to maintain their hold on power.

This is Trump's world now, we just live in it.  He's going to be in office until old age and bad health do him in, and you are going to have him in your face every day for as long as he does live, you will never be free of him.  He will run again in 2028 and win again.

And the sad truth is that all the talk about how "this is not who we are" is pure bullshit.  It is who we are, it's who we've always been, even during the years when New Deal liberal politics supposedly dominated.

This was not a vote for Trump or a vote against any candidate in particular, it was a vote against liberalism itself.  It was a vote against the idea of self-government, a vote that basically said "The American Experiment is a failure.  We want to be ruled over rather than be governed, especially to have a say in that government.  Give us what little bread you can spare and whatever circuses you can dream up, just don't bother me."

We got Trump because we wanted him.  Because a significant number of us are complete and utter assholes.  So fasten your seatbelts, boys and girls, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

--removing the filibuster and enacting other measures to never lose power again

Enough with the Nazi accusations.  Every time someone implies that America is full of Nazis now, he might as well be wearing "Idiot" on his forehead.

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Over 13 million less people voted in this election.  The orange one got nearly the same amount of votes as he did in 2020...

Enough with the Nazi accusations.

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Oh, I don't think so.  They're just going to get more and more credible.

You're trying to overcomplicate what is really a simple issue.

Really, it's not that hard.

That's straight out of the Nazi playbook.