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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 24 July 2024 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | 1
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JB: If we apply real world rules too restrictively we can imagine some people guessing that Superman has a secret identity, and then shooting random strangers on the street in an effort to prove it.
** For what it's worth, just reading that prompted a Swan/Klein cover to appear in my mind's eye of that very plot being attempted by the syndicate.
I cannot over-emphasize how much I like the "no one knows" scenario about Superman's secret identity.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 24 July 2024 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | 2
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It’s all in those two words, “secret identity”. An identity that is secret.
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ron bailey Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 24 July 2024 at 11:11pm | IP Logged | 3
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Maybe the only close "real life" analogy would be celebrities: If Ben Affleck or Taylor Swift wanted to enjoy anonymity for whatever reason, they wouldn't create a whole new fully realized alternate identity to live through to do so, they would just wear hats and sunglasses and register under a fake name at hotels.
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 24 July 2024 at 11:34pm | IP Logged | 4
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It DOES make sense that maybe the general public wouldn't be able to tell so easily who are super-villains and who are super-heroes. Sure, some villains make it very clear--bank robbery, making terrorist claims on live TV, etc. But others are more secretive and behind the scenes, so if the general public saw Catwoman or Ocean Master or Kraven or the Chameleon on the street, they might wonder if this was a new hero or villain and be unsure whether to ask for an autograph or run for their lives.
Spider-Man or Batman sometimes being hunted by the police and other times not makes more sense to me now than when I first started reading comics.
Edited by Eric Jansen on 24 July 2024 at 11:35pm
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 24 July 2024 at 11:37pm | IP Logged | 5
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Unless a mutant identified him/herself as such, how would a civilian know s/he wasn’t just a regular-degular super-powered person like Power Man, Spider-Man or the Wasp?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 12:17am | IP Logged | 6
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Hey, there’s a truckload of FANS who can’t tell the difference!!
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 12:59am | IP Logged | 7
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I always did wonder what the difference was between the public viewing Cyclops or, say, the Black Panther. The Panther could look scary and Cyclops is dressed in happy colors--but the Panther was with the popular Avengers and Cyclops was with the outcast X-Men.
The Angel might have been beloved and received with open arms more than Captain America if he hadn't been "tainted" by his connection with those mutant X-Men. (At what point did the public find out that the X-Men were mutants anyhow?) When the Beast looked human but was an X-Man, he was shunned. But when he looked more monstrous--but was with the Avengers--he was popular (especially with the ladies).
Over at DC, Elasti-Girl was beautiful and powerful--might she have been celebrated if the Justice League signed her up before the freakish Doom Patrol did? (FYI: The early stories had the Doom Patrol pretty popular with the public, but that sure wore off since then.)
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 5:53am | IP Logged | 8
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I would assume the following The guy has to eat. Therefore, he either walks around in cities, or he has a staff. But then, where would he get the money for a staff?
I would assume he walks around in civvies. Especially as other heroes clearly do (wearing masks). However, I would assume he may well be a nobody.
Reading Twatter & its conspiracy myths, in the modern world, there would be the most outrageous speculation, regardless of any evidence for or against. Certainly the bots would be wading in on this. Considering the traction chem trails, Biden being dead, flat earth & all the stuff about the recent shooting get on that platform, without anything being based on evidence, I really believe this to be the case.
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Brian Rhodes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | 9
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I would assume the following The guy has to eat. Therefore, he either walks around in cities, or he has a staff. But then, where would he get the money for a staff?
Why would one assume that? Especially if he admits to being an alien. All it would take is one interview for him to explain, "Due to my alien physiology, eating is not necessary. Though I have occasionally enjoyed it."
He wouldn't have to go into being charged up by our yellow sun, or what any weaknesses were. "Nothing much seems to hurt me." "I can pretty much see through anything." "If magic exists, I can't say how it would affect me."
And if asked what he does when he's not Superman? "Well, even though my given name is Kal-El, I suppose I'm always Superman, in way. I want to be in a position to use my gifts in service to humanity at any time."
Edited by Brian Rhodes on 25 July 2024 at 1:38pm
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John Byrne
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | 10
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When did the people of the world learn that Superman was an alien? In his publication history it was something he did not learn himself for ten years. However they found out, people were remarkably calm about the whole thing.
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Steve Coates Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 11
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Rate or itemize what organizations, groups or professionals wanting to collect data on Superman, which would be a concern to Superman.
I'll start: Government Military Crime Cartels The Press
Who else?
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ron bailey Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 July 2024 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 12
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Speaking strictly of Superman, if the world knows he's an alien, then there is no way anyone is assuming there is a secret identity.
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