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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 21 March 2025 at 5:30pm | IP Logged | 1
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Some protests are better than none, but we need to see this trend go up and up, stronger and stronger!
I would be glad to hear more reports of the sleeping giant of the American people taking back their power.
Some things that worry me: Though Tesla stock took a big hit, it has been going up steady for the last week.
Also I hear regular reference elswhere to a Trump-inspired "crash" in the stock market which has not actually materialized. We are back to pre-Trump numbers, in spite of the Tariff madness.
I hate "rooting against" American success, but as Churchill said-- it seems that after every other option has run out, America does the right thing. The sooner we feel the sting of Trump, the sooner there will be real action.
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John Byrne
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Attacks on Teslas are way out of line.
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Brennan Voboril
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The initial TSLA IPO was at $17 per share. Had a person invested $1000 dollars in it then they would have "made" something in the neighborhood of 147k, at today's price of $240 per share. That is a 14,660% return - if my down and dirty math is correct.
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Brennan Voboril
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"Attacks on Teslas are way out of line."
Reminds of so-called environmentalists spiking trees, or as they lovingly referred to it - monkeywrenching. I am not sure how many innocent loggers were hurt by those acts of terrorism, but it is more than one and one is one too many.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 21 March 2025 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | 5
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QUOTE:
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Tesla has real problems and its current position as a symbol of the Trumpist state is only part of it. The stock trades at a ridiculous multiple to earnings (100x or more). Only a growth stock can justify such valuations, but its sales figures this year are flat at best.
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 21 March 2025 at 6:18pm | IP Logged | 6
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I'm not advising anyone to invest in it, merely pointing out that whatever the protests are doing to Tesla, it isn't enough.
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Casey Sager
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I agree that the attacks on Teslas are way out of line. I personally do not condone vandalism, but I know some liberals who are not only condoning it, but actively rooting for it. When I try to discuss it with them they want to hear none of it and start attacking me for "defending Tesla", even when I say I'm defending peoples rights not to have their belongings vandalized.
As someone who has had their house robbed and their car vandalized in the past, it is NOT cool, no matter the reason.
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ron bailey
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Yes, by all means, any kind of resistance should be neat and tidy and not have any collateral damage associated with it. That's how real change is brought about.
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James Johnson
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I'm all for protesting Tesla, but do it peacefully.
The White Brains Grifter is looking for a reason to send the military on the streets to shoot civilians. Especially those he and his ilk like to call (rhymes with "riggers" and "wieners").
There is a reason why "Drunken" Pete got rid of most (if not all) military leaders the were POC and female then replaced them with White males. When it's time to give the command to shoot civilians, they will not hesitate.
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James Woodcock
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Hmmm. I’m not advocating damaging Tesla cars by any stretch. It’s wrong.
But, the claims that real change only comes without collateral damage is to
have not studied Northern Ireland.
There, people were being killed with no negotiations taking place.
Once buildings started to be blown up, with notice periods, the insurance
companies started to refuse to insure buildings.
People started to negotiate.
It was obviously a lot more complex than that, but it was a big contributing
factor to the peace process
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Brian Floyd
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Fox News is suggesting that people should be given the death penalty for blowing up Teslas. Seriously?!
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Dave Kopperman
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There are two obvious problems with the whole ‘blowing up Teslas’ approach: first is that anything like this could actually result in someone innocent getting hurt. Second is that now the whole story becomes about the sideshow, which ends up dominating the news cycle and providing cover for the ongoing heinous shit Trump/Musk are getting up to.
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