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John Byrne
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Posted: 11 November 2024 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | 1
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If there is truth to the report that Musk thinks ‘high status males’ shouldrule, then everything I fear will come to pass.••• That’s what the Founding Fathers believed. That’s why they created the Nation as a Republic.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7891
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Posted: 11 November 2024 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | 2
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Yeah but they lived in a time when women were second class people. Do we really want to return to that kind of society? Well, return is maybe the wrong word - strengthen & increase might be better
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John Byrne
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Posted: 11 November 2024 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | 3
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Exactly. More than half the voters clearly wish it was the 18th Century.
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3507
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Posted: 11 November 2024 at 4:24pm | IP Logged | 4
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A country that deliberately restricts the rights of any group - never mind literally half the population! - is guaranteed to fall behind. I don't understand the mindset here, and the more I gain insight into it the less I wanted to know. This need to control women is deeply sad, deeply perverse, and deeply, deeply wrong.
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4046
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Posted: 11 November 2024 at 5:01pm | IP Logged | 5
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I posted this reflection in the Kamala thread. While it may not hold any deep insights, it is important enough to me, that I am voicing it in the correct thread.... thanks gang.
Trump is a very real threat to democracy.
History has shown that all empires fall and most don’t realize that it’s happening. No way to know when, but the factors playing out now could lead to it.
My significant other was 9 when her family fled Iran. The single reason that they were able to do so was because her father was a successful businessman and had contacts who warned him. That said, it was falling apart around them and they barely got out.
One day it was the shah and the next …. The ayatollah.
Americans have become careless and taken their eye off of the ball. Unless all of us hold our government accountable, this is experiment will fail. Maybe not in our lifetime, though anyone who believes that individual rights being stripped away to the point that 15 years down the road this country is unrecognizable, is either not paying attention or is kidding themselves.
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3507
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Posted: 12 November 2024 at 3:50pm | IP Logged | 6
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Trump's cabinet is (as expected) shaping up to be a real Asshole Caravan, though most of the party regulars fall within the normal asshole range - Kristi Noem for Homeland Security and Marco Rubio for Secretary of State aren't people I particularly admire but I suspect they'll take the roles seriously (from their own POV) and both have enough experience that it won't be amateur hour, at least. Though Noem definitely falls more in the MTG mold of celebrity politician than someone really dedicated to responsible governance.
But the whole Q-adjacent people - RFK JR and Musk - being given reign over major pieces of our Federal infrastructure and workforce is only going to be bad news. I can't even imagine how bad their shit is going to be, and I can imagine a lot of bad.
As for Miller in charge of immigration, well, we knew that was coming and millions of people are going to suffer needlessly. America is going become synonymous with Trump's brand - cheap, tawdry, cruel, hollow, and morally bankrupt.
Edited by Dave Kopperman on 12 November 2024 at 5:57pm
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7891
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Posted: 12 November 2024 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | 7
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An crazy amount of those people who will suffer seem to have voted for it thinking they would not be affected. i really cannot understand that.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 9034
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Posted: 12 November 2024 at 8:11pm | IP Logged | 8
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An crazy amount of those people who will suffer seem to have voted for it thinking they would not be affected. i really cannot understand that.
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Because they're stupid and wanted to "own the libs".
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 31329
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Posted: 12 November 2024 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | 9
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An crazy amount of those people who will suffer seem to have voted for it thinking they would not be affected. i really cannot understand that. ******** Working in healthcare, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard people say they can’t wait for Trump to get rid of Obamacare while saying in THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE that the ACA is a good plan for healthcare insurance. They just wish ol’ Trump would finally do away with Obamacare so the ACA will work like it’s supposed to.
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4866
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Posted: 13 November 2024 at 9:55pm | IP Logged | 10
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Special Counsel Jack Smith to resign before the felon takes office. LINK
Also, Matt Gaetz nominated for Attorney General. UGHHH.
-C!
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4046
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Posted: 13 November 2024 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 11
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Wanna hear a good one…… 😐
"I suspect I won't be running again, unless you say, 'he's so good, we've got to figure something else,' " Trump said while addressing the House Republican Conference in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, Nov. 13. The crowd chuckled in response to his remark. …….
Funny, right?
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3507
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Posted: 13 November 2024 at 10:02pm | IP Logged | 12
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Woof, Matt Gaetz. I can't name a politician with a lower moral bar. His first official declaration will be (to quote el Presidente): "all children under the age of sixteen... are now sixteen."
He's loathed by all of his colleagues in the House, though we'll see how much that impacts the approval process. At this point I don't see any Republican members of Congress with anything like a spine.
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