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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 November 2023 at 5:08am | IP Logged | 1
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Funny thing, as many times as I’ve read that issue, I never tried to see if answering that question “What is… THE POWER?” is actually framed that way. I read those covers and I really want to know, what is the power? I guess it’s Alex’s secret?
How much if Alex’s power was worked out before Adams came on board?
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3502
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Posted: 30 November 2023 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | 2
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I'm sure someone (many thousands of someones) has noticed previously, but looking at the Kirby and Adams covers on the previous page made me realize why JB's run is now so well regarded: visually, it exists right at the mid-point of the wild stylistic swings between those two artists. It's like the book had been gestating for two decades and then was 'born' when that fusion happened.
Edited by Dave Kopperman on 30 November 2023 at 2:28pm
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John Byrne
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Posted: 30 November 2023 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 3
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To this day I do not understand why Neal’s cover was rejected. Although the logo is partly obscured—tho I would insist still readable—it is obscured by the main characters. Who would have imagined that the top quarter of that cover, poking above whatever was below it on a spinner rack, would not be immediately recognizable?
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 November 2023 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 4
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I forgot the story on this one, but here's an unused X-MEN #142 cover by Byrne & Austin, followed by the one that made it to print by Terry Austin.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4635
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Posted: 30 November 2023 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | 5
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I think the rejected Adams #56 cover might've jumped out from the stands... I know #135 sure did!
Technically Austin's cover is well done, it's the idea behind it I dislike... blowing the gaff on future Wolverine's fate taking a bit of the impact off it happening inside. Death sells? I was wondering though if the rejected one may have been rejected as the three X-Men of the future are not wearing their future clothing?
I'm not crazy about the coloring of the rejected #142 cover... hopefully it might've/would've been better than that.
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 30 November 2023 at 11:20pm
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 March 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 16023
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 1:34am | IP Logged | 6
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Tying in with the Star Brand thread, there is the launch cover:
The unused one is obviously by JR Jr.
The one that ended up being used is supposedly also JR Jr, though to my eye I don't see a lot of JR Jr in there.
Does anyone know any further information?
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 1:41am | IP Logged | 7
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The first is way better to me.
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Jason K Fulton Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 1:45am | IP Logged | 8
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Weird choice to hire JRJR, get a JRJR cover, and then....do that to it.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 2:16am | IP Logged | 9
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I never bought any New Universe titles but the black boxing in of the art seemed kind of a mistake like the early '70s boxing in, boring blankness and less room for the art to me... so the rejected one looks better if just because it doesn't have that.
Was Star Brand related to the 'Beyonder'? Jim Shooter created a couple of okay Legion characters maybe but so many of his later characters just look like dudes from a fashion mag at best! Korvac in the yuppie tennis outfit, Beyonder a white disco suit, and this guy with a brown airline host uniform. Not the most arresting visual to start off with.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 3:24am | IP Logged | 10
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Unless something changed later on, Star Brand was not related to the Beyonder. The original concept of the New Universe was that it was nothing to do with the existing Marvel Universe.
The bare bones of it was a reasonably intriguing idea. Blue collar guy in Pittsburgh meets an alien who tells him he is on his last legs and gives him the brand, which is some kind of interstellar weapon.
The main thrust of the book in its first few issues was about the ramifications of having this power in the "real world". An added kink in the tale, was that it subsequently turns out the original alien may have not been quite telling the whole truth about being on his last legs. There's an element of ambiguity about quite what we know or don't know, as the hero was hypnotised when the alien gave him the brand.
This was all pretty good. Looking back on it, what wasn't so good was the kind of sliminess of the protagonist, who spends a lot of his time two-timing his single-mother girlfriend.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 5:37am | IP Logged | 11
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Shooter had a thing for slimy boyfriends around that time. Look @ some of the characters in Harbinger - there were some seriously questionable main characters in that comic.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | 12
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Surely they were just….misunderstood?
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