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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 07 December 2023 at 11:45pm | IP Logged | 1
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Re:the MT-U cover above:
I’ve always thought that image of Super Skrull looked off in comparison to
the rest of the cover. Looks like they used Gil’s legs but redid the upper
body.
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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 07 December 2023 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | 2
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The "X" on Cyclops' X-Factor costume creates an unfortunate
void at his, um, center mass that really jumps out in black
and white.
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 08 December 2023 at 2:40am | IP Logged | 3
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Those X costumes were dumb. So were a lot of what came after.
Edited by Eric Jansen on 08 December 2023 at 2:40am
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 08 December 2023 at 4:42am | IP Logged | 4
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First, let me say that I love ABSOLUTELY LOVE just about every Dave Cockrum cover I have ever seen! And even this rejected one is in many ways amazing! But I just don't know why the Hulk is so big. He's about ten feet tall here, which might be commonplace with later, more exaggerated artists but it just doesn't make sense with a more representational artist like Cockrum. It makes sense that it was replaced...but I still like looking at the "wrong" one.
And here's the Marie Severin/Frank Giacoia replacement, for INCREDIBLE HULK #208.
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 09 December 2023 at 10:31am | IP Logged | 5
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Here's an interesting one (with Kang making waves in the MCU of late)--the original cover for GIANT-SIZE AVENGERS #2 versus the altered printed version. (Credited to Ron Wilson, Frank Giacoia, and John Romita.) Am I correct in thinking that Doom being an ancestor of Kang has never really been resolved?
Edited by Eric Jansen on 09 December 2023 at 11:08am
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 10 December 2023 at 10:36pm | IP Logged | 6
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Bob Layton just posted this unused cover for his HERCULES: FULL CIRCLE graphic novel. He says he finished it before he was told that wraparound covers were no go. Again, it seems that there could be better communication between the editor and the artist for a lot of these. (Colored more recently by a friend, he says.)
Not everybody likes Layton's style, but his Hercules was a lot of fun and that cover is gorgeous! A lot better than the one that ended up being used--
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Wallace Sellars
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I'd take all three of those unused covers Eric posted over the ones that were published. That first HERCULES cover would have caught my eye; not so the second.
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 12 December 2023 at 10:00am | IP Logged | 8
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I guess it makes sense to scrap a cover if you've redesigned the character being introduced! Here's FANTASTIC FOUR #52 by Kirby (with at least the printed one inked by Joe Sinnott).
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Wallace Sellars
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It's almost as if I just prefer crisp B&W line art to the colored, "finished" work...
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John Byrne
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I have trained you well! ;-)
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John Byrne
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Logo placement on that wraparound HERCULES cover certainly doesn’t do the art any favors. Looks like the son of Zeus and his companions are about to be engulfed in a flood of melted marshmallows.
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 12 December 2023 at 11:38pm | IP Logged | 12
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Here's a rare unused Neal Adams DC cover, for PHANTOM STRANGER #11, and its nearly identical replacement (or possibly he just did an overlay for the woman).
Edited by Eric Jansen on 13 December 2023 at 10:32am
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