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Joe Smith
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I sit here speculating on every page.....my ideas are just
stupid though, so I don't write them down here.
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Wilson Mui
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It is surprising to see Gladiator get
emotional over Astra's situation.
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Brad Hague
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I went back and reread the issues.I also just went back (it took me a couple months) and reread X-Men 1 to 66 and then 94 to 137 and finished that earlier this week. Actually, I finished with Phoenix: The Untold Story.
This makes this series even more fun.
I must comment that Terry's inking had changed significantly in the 3 or 4 years between the time of 137 and his work on the Phoenix book. I used to wonder what you meant, Mr. Byrne, when you said that your style and Terry's no longer worked as well together. Well, I can see that now as early as 1984. I couldn't see it then though.
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Matt Hawes
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Brad Hague: "...I also just went back (it took me a couple months) and reread X-Men 1 to 66 and then 94 to 137 and finished that earlier this week. Actually, I finished with Phoenix: The Untold Story."..."
This past year, I did the same, but I also reread issues #138-#143, even though they aren't part of the ELSEWHEN continuity. I was reading the "Children of The Atom" boxed set, which included several other comics where the X-Men guest-starred, and what guest appearances weren't reprinted in that collection (which wasn't many) I tracked down and also read or reread. Whew!
Brad: "...I must comment that Terry's inking had changed significantly in the 3 or 4 years between the time of 137 and his work on the Phoenix book...."
Yeah, even back then I noticed that both JB and Terry's styles had changed a bit over those years. I think it was with "Fantastic Four" #250, where Terry inked JB on the cover, that I got the first hint the combo didn't look the same as before. Both were still great artists, but I could see there was some evolution with both of them in just a few years that gave the art a different feel to me.
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John Byrne
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...I must comment that Terry's inking had changed significantly in the 3 or 4 years between the time of 137 and his work on the Phoenix book....•• One significant and visible change in Terry's inking was/is the way he breaks his line. He's always done this--most inkers do--but the gaps became larger over the years. At one time, I even pointed out to him what a nightmare he was creating for colorists who did their work on computers. Color would "spill" thru those gaps. (I started working toward eliminating line breaks in my own inks when I noticed colorists would be most inconsistent about which side of the line they made the edge of the color. If there was a break on a character's nose, for instance, and the colorist carried the flesh tone into the break, it would look as if the character had a wart on his/her nose!)
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Wallace Sellars
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Both Jean Greys?!?
I don't care what anyone may now claim they suspected would happen.
No one (other than JB) saw that coming!
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John Byrne
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I don't care what anyone may now claim they suspected would happen.•• Atchully, I much prefer an occasional "Oh, I saw that coming!" to "Here's what I think is coming!" No possible spoilers in the first phrase!
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Jason Ladwig
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Funny, I had the same reaction as alt-Jean when I got to the last panel. I can’t believe I’m saying it but Monday can’t come soon enough!
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Andrew Bitner
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Seems as though, much like Dr. Leonard McCoy, teleportation does not agree with alt-Jean.
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Brian Miller
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I know this comes after the period you guys are talking about but THE
LAST GALACTUS STORY, the few pages in the HEROES FOR HOPE
book and the three SUPERMAN issues he inked are, to my eye, Terry’s
best work over JB.
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Jonathan Kaye
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I'd like to express my spoiler-free deep appreciation for JB's storytelling skills here!
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Vinny Valenti
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"At one time, I even pointed out to him what a nightmare he was creating for colorists who did their work on computers. Color would "spill" thru those gaps."
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Yes! I made the same exact observation many years ago. Even as a a young adult, my eyes couldn't help but gravitate towards the line breaks, and I found it disorienting.
I'll say again that while Dan Green's inking style from the 70's had also changed over the years, it somehow remained compatibile with the changes in your own pencil style. And I tend to not like Green over many other artists, but he's great on you. His "messy and chaotic" line is exactly what BLOOD OF THE DEMON needed!
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