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John Northey Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 January 2021 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | 1
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Funny, as a 12 year old it never hit me that Kitty and Kate's kiss was anything but a cheek kiss like you'd get from your mother. Guess I can see it now, but I think that is reading way too much into it.
I'm curious how this goes with Oracle and Jean - must avoid speculation (could they bring back Phoenix instead - dang did speculate). Prof X not on the panel so I'm guessing he isn't around at that moment (last seen in the metal room) or Oracle would've grabbed both. Trying to keep my mindset with the X-Men as limited in this story (ie: not with the assorted changed done post-Byrne). Meaning that Prof X is the most powerful telepath on Earth and far stronger than Jean would be.
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Philippe Pinoli Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 September 2004 Location: France Posts: 1331
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 1:58am | IP Logged | 2
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Not the right thread but even younger I wondered why Kate soul was awake whereas Kitty's was asleep IF they just switched places ! Of course it was because JB did not draw and coplotted it this way. Curse you Chris.
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Philippe Pinoli Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 2:00am | IP Logged | 3
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And a soul giving another one a kiss ?! While meeting going back in different directions in the corridors of time....stupid.
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Steven Queen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 February 2020 Location: United States Posts: 950
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 6:35am | IP Logged | 4
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Talk about soul. Whenever Jean is with the X-men, she grounds them so well. When done properly (like this), she has always been the heart of the team.
This series is masterful. Marvel should have all their young writers and artists studying it.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 6:48am | IP Logged | 5
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Beyond the “lesbian incest” element, the kiss has the much broader effect of negating the whole point of my story. Kate journeyed back in an effort to change the timeline, which she did by preventing the murder of Senator Kelly. At that moment, she should have ceased to exist, disappearing out of Kitty as if she’d never been there. By writing the scene as if Kate not only persisted, but was capable of thought and action, Chris left the future unchanged—another failure for the X-Men. One which Chris continued to mine it for years to come.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17701
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:28am | IP Logged | 6
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Woah! Seeing Lilandra's form coming together like that is incredible. Is that a visual effect you've used before, JB?
I have a feeling tomorrow's final page of this issue is going to be a doozy!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:30am | IP Logged | 7
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Is that a visual effect you've used before, JB?•• Not on this scale. It's several layers of Photoshoppery, flattened into a single image. Of course, this means that the area is blank on the original pencils! +++++++ I have a feeling tomorrow's final page of this issue is going to be a doozy! •• You'll be getting TWO pages tomorrow--and my own feeling is that "doozy" will not even cover it. . . . . . . .
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 2174
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:35am | IP Logged | 8
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Beyond the “lesbian incest” element, the kiss has the much broader effect of negating the whole point of my story.Kate journeyed back in an effort to change the timeline, which she did by preventing the murder of Senator Kelly. At that moment, she should have ceased to exist, disappearing out of Kitty as if she’d never been there. By writing the scene as if Kate not only persisted, but was capable of thought and action, Chris left the future unchanged—another failure for the X-Men. One which Chris continued to mine it for years to come.
====================================================== ^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If only this site had a Like button. Outside of Chris' constantly shoving the death of Phoenix down our throats, the Days of Future Past storyline never ended with him. Should have been an 1-and-Done.
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David Allen Perrin Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 April 2009 Location: United States Posts: 3582
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:38am | IP Logged | 9
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WOW!
Just plain ol’ WOW!
Let’s see a movie special effects team pull THAT off!
Just incredible.
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William Roberge Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 11314
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 10
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Damn that’s a nice page
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John Byrne
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:51am | IP Logged | 11
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Outside of Chris' constantly shoving the death of Phoenix down our throats, the Days of Future Past storyline never ended with him. Should have been an 1-and-Done. •• Always my intent. You can see, I am sure, why this still sticks in my craw, so many decades later!
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 January 2021 at 7:53am | IP Logged | 12
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I cannot wait for tomorrow's page.
Next Month: More of the "What If?" X-Men team!*
* Until JB gives them an official name.
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